Last edited by CoCoBandz; 06-09-2021 at 07:32 PM.
The Krakoans are EEEvil!
THEY MUST BE STOPPED!
No the Inhumans were not out to kill the mutants but they waited a WHOLE YEAR until they did anything about it. A year went by with them knowing the cloud was going around killing mutants and they did nothing to stop it until IvX. They knowingly allowed mutants to be massacred under their watch and the fact that a year went by made it inexcusable. They knew this. Everyone knew this. That was not new information that was learned in IVX
Good work from Cates then, Hope he gets X-men on the future.
Most book just never mention the inhumans vs X-men. It is like a thing to be forgotten
That wasn't their intention, but X-men didn't cared about the possible terrible consequences. They reacted pretty badly to avengers being worried
Last edited by Rang10; 06-09-2021 at 07:50 PM.
AvX was written by the Avengers office. It was the Fake News of X-Men stories. IvX was not much better, but why is anyone trying to argue which story was a bigger stinker when we should all just forget about it. Everyone at Marvel other than maybe Aaron has already, and the way Aaron writes the Phoenix, I do not think he remembers being part of AvX either.
They didn't do nothing. They didn't destroy the cloud, but what they did do is provided medical help, gave man power + technology to beast to help him find a cure, and got Mutants out of the way where they could.
The Mutant's could have done something like this in AvX, where the Avengers will go through with Hope (if she still wanted to be) becoming the host, and both groups move her so the earth wouldn't be the destination. Instead the X-men attacked them.
Thats not good enough. Mutants still died when they had the power to stop it the minute they knew the cloud was toxic. They could have contained the cloud. They could have crystallized and have Terrigenesis be a voluntary process as it had been prior to the T-bomb. Destroying the cloud would have been ideal, but it wasnt the only option. There was room for compromise but Medusa treated the cloud like some sacred figure. It was more important for her to let the cloud make more Inhumans across the globe, even at the expense of the mutant lives that it was killing
AvX again... joy... Somehow people are actually trying to argue that the mutants were somehow wrong in these events? Or to even remotely defend the Inhumans in IvX?
Ok lets go,
AvX
1) No X-Man summoned the phoenix, or even particularly wanted it to come. They knew it was coming and the only intelligence they had was to train and prepare the host (Hope).
1A) The X-Mens big plan for dealing with the Phoenix was to train Hope to deal with the power .
2) The Avengers didn't show up and try and work with the X-Men or help with their plans instead they showed up with an army and said give us Hope or else.
2A) Cable had, prior to being hurt pulled Cyclops into his mind and showed him a scorched and lifeless earth and told him that was the future if the Avengers take Hope.
2B) Cyclops chose "or else"
3) Avengers attempts to "stop" the Phoenix didn't work but did manage to forcibly split it into 5 hosts (who didn't ask or invite it)
4) After being Phoenixed up the X-Men immediately attacked the Avengers and assaulted children without provocation... no wait that was the Avengers, the X-Men were establishing world peace and addressing resource scarcity.
4a) the Avengers attacked because of what the Phoenix 5 "might do" in the future not what the were doing and got called out on that by Reed Richards
5) After being attacked the p5 do begin to become unstable
6) The Avengers big plan for dealing with the Phoenix was to train Hope to deal with the power.
7) In spite of being unwillingly possessed by a cosmic entity caused by the Avengers and repeatedly attacked without provocation including the use of lethal levels of force against him, Cyclops is mad and everything was his fault.
IvX
1) The Inhumans leaders knowingly released a toxic gas that historically empowers inhumans but kills humans.
1A) The gas is now harmless to regular humans but lethal to mutants
2) Mutants die, Inhumans do nothing, no one can figure out how to contain or combat a cloud
3) "Cyclops" comes up with a plan to destroy one of the toxic clouds, a plan that harms exactly no one, except one mutant who died removing the cloud
4) Medusa and Black Bolt "kill" "Cyclops"
4b) Cyclops is now remembered as the mutant hitler and hated by all the world.
5) Mutants around the world are dying
5b) Inhumans make a token effort to help people suffering but do nothing to end the cause.
6) Knowing the cloud is killing mutants, Medusa orders the inhumans to prepare for war to defend the cloud
7) mutants vote to disable (not kill) the inhuman royal family and destroy the cloud
8) Inhumans continue to fight to defend the cloud
9) Moon Girls explains to Medusa, in language used to explain things to a 2 year old, that the murdering cloud is bad and killing people.
9A) Medusa feels bad and agrees to destroy the cloud... finally
10) Emma Frost is mad and everything is her fault. Medusa and the Inhumans are somehow supposed to be the heroes.
Now the first take away from both of these should not somehow be "the mutants were bad", it should be.. holy shit this writing and editing is terrible. AvX ignored a decade of build up in the X-Men books so that Cap can give a speech, Spider-Man can talk about "power and responsibility" and kung fu water bucket training for 5 minutes somehow completes what years of training under Cable and the X-Men didn't. Every single person in this was out of character and juggling the idiot ball. "Cyclops was right" comes about after AvX not because he was right, but because every single other person and plan in that PoS was so much worse.
IvX is simply indefensibly bad, every single thing about it is simply insultingly bad.
Last edited by Kisinith; 06-09-2021 at 09:14 PM.
You're victim shaming. The fact is that mutants were being massacred by a poisonous timebomb and you are faulting them for wanting to destroy the source of their killing to end the suffering
Medusa sat on her throne while the X-men watched their mutant children die. Again a whole year in comic time went by with her allowing this under her watch
I think I saw the Inhuman Synapse in xmen today, the telepathy scene explaining to non telepath non mutants what was happening
This actually makes me think
.... why are the mutants not going hardball af to make sure the inhumans are in check? Like... if the inhumans wanted they could do a serious number on krakoa