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    One change Disney has made is more human diversity in the Empire than the original films.
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    With the Empire aliens always seemed to be 2nd class citizens. The only way to climb the ranks as a non human in the Empire was to just be so good at your job they could not ignore you like Thrawn was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
    With the Empire aliens always seemed to be 2nd class citizens. The only way to climb the ranks as a non human in the Empire was to just be so good at your job they could not ignore you like Thrawn was.
    Even then;
    1. Thrawn is an incredibly humanoid alien.
    2. His race is from the Unknown Region, therefore, not actually part of the Empire/Republic.

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    He also had a lot of information-although he kept it mostly to himself-about regions of the galaxy the Republic/Empire were largely in the dark about, and that could possibly be a threat (In the old EU it was mainly the Vong, in the new Disney one there's some sort of Vong-esque aliens called the Grysk although they lack a lot of the weirder elements of the Vong such as a lot of the organic technology), so Palpatine probably thought that was an asset (and of course he had his own secrets in the Unknown regions too).

    The Old EU even implied-in Outbound Flight-that the reason the Empire was so militarized was because a younger Thrawn warned Chancellor Palpatine about the Vong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    He also had a lot of information-although he kept it mostly to himself-about regions of the galaxy the Republic/Empire were largely in the dark about, and that could possibly be a threat (In the old EU it was mainly the Vong, in the new Disney one there's some sort of Vong-esque aliens called the Grysk although they lack a lot of the weirder elements of the Vong such as a lot of the organic technology), so Palpatine probably thought that was an asset (and of course he had his own secrets in the Unknown regions too).

    The Old EU even implied-in Outbound Flight-that the reason the Empire was so militarized was because a younger Thrawn warned Chancellor Palpatine about the Vong.
    As much as I kind of liked that idea back then, I’ve since come to feel that the more logical and dramatic way to play Thrawn’s “pragmatism” in supporting the Empire would be to have his decision disproven in a cruel irony - that regardless of how well he’s judged the UR threat, it turns out to be less dangerous and less destructive to his people than the Empire.

    The Chiss Ascendancy occupies the same area that the First Order shelters in after ROTJ; a creatively brutal bit fo karma for Thrawn would be that after or as he is defeated in the TV shows, he becomes aware that the Imperial Remnant is starting to conquer, enslave, and wipe out the Ascendancy so that it can use the resources for itself, and his ostensibly logical if cruel judgement of the situation was wrong, and the cost of him believing he must sacrifice the innocent of the larger Galaxy for the sake of order and his people is him realizing that order will inevitably be betrayed by his allies, and his people as well.
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