Why is everyone upset about the United States of Captain America?

[JudicatorPrime]

Maybe Logan is a fish too…

Sure. Has to start somewhere.

[mace11]

And how does that affect how PoC are marginalized nowadays?

In america or china?
For example poc in china who are the majority group are not marginalized,but poc in america?
That's a different story.

There are Whites who are a minority in other countries and will say they feel and are marginalized as well and there are poc in countries who are not marginalized.

[CosmiComic]

In america or china?
For example poc in china who are the majority group are not marginalized,but poc in america?
That's a different story.

There are Whites who are a minority in other countries will say they feel marginalized as well.

I'm mainly talking about the USA because that's where most of these comics are based. Most of the characters in Marvel are White, so they're not marginalized there.

[phonogram12]

In america or china?
For example poc in china who are the majority group are not marginalized,but poc in america?
That's a different story.

There are Whites who are a minority in other countries will say they feel marginalized as well.

Well, I mean, as an Asian American, I can't speak for them. I can only speak as an Asian American here. And here, POC are marginalized. That's just a fact.

[CosmiComic]

Well, I mean, as an Asian American, I can't speak for them. I can only speak as an Asian American here. And here, POC are marginalized. That's just a fact.

Exactly. White people aren't a group who need extra representation in Marvel Comics, which is the main issue

[mace11]

Edited above.

Well, I mean, as an Asian American, I can't speak for them. I can only speak as an Asian American here. And here, POC are marginalized. That's just a fact.

Okay.

[Triniking1234]

Twitter isn't "everyone". Thank God.

[9th.]

As opposed to pandering to White men for decades?

Oh no thats ok, thats just called "marketing"

[CosmiComic]

Oh no thats ok, thats just called "marketing"

Yeah, yet when minority heroes are added to media, suddenly capitalism is evil! Not everything it's ever done, apparently

[9th.]

From what I read she's the antagonist and not Filipino-American Cap Ari Agbayani (there are jokes running around the Fil-Am and Filipino communities because "ari" is slang for genitals, though it also means property or possession in general) who is in the backup story. Ari is short for "Arielle".



This is the Peach Momoko variant cover for #4

I'm not Fillipino so I can't speak on how offensive it really is but if we can have Dick Grayson and Peter Parker then this should be ok.

[CosmiComic]

If Filipino people find it offensive, I don't think that should be ignored. In that Marvel should've made a bit more effort to be aware of these things.

[Ravin' Ray]

I'm Filipino and speaking just for myself I don't find it offensive.

We can't lump together and Filipino and Filipino-American reactions though. The latter identify with their Filipino heritage in varying degrees, in part due to which generation of American citizenship they are. On the side I could ask my cousins there what they think of Ari.

[Anthony W]

Hmm...Let's get the manga perspective on this.

((Manga diving into a giant pile of cash))

Manga: Wheeee!

Me: Hey Manga, do you feel you are doing enough to.....

((Crowd begins to chant Manga's name))

Crowd:: Manga! Manga! Manga!

You know what guys, I don't think now is a good time.

[JudicatorPrime]

If Filipino people find it offensive, I don't think that should be ignored. In that Marvel should've made a bit more effort to be aware of these things.

In fairness to Marvel, it's not always that cut and dry. Even within a cultural group there can be disagreements as to what is and what is not objectionable content and characterization.

In the past Marvel avoided conflicts by making POC characters as basic and generic as possible. But these days even that has risks.

I don't have any answers for Marvel. I just hope that they are either working with members of the Filipino community -- or better still, have someone from the community on the creative team. And I pray Marvel doesn't reduce the character to pro forma references to Manila or lumpia, followed by 9,000 panels of bland, generic character content that could have just as easily been used for any character, irrespective of ethnicity or background.

[CosmiComic]

In fairness to Marvel, it's not always that cut and dry. Even within a cultural group there can be disagreements as to what is and what is not objectionable content and characterization.

In the past Marvel avoided conflicts by making POC characters as basic and generic as possible. But these days even that has risks.

I don't have any answers for Marvel. I just hope that they are either working with members of the Filipino community -- or better still, have someone from the community on the creative team. And I pray Marvel doesn't reduce the character to pro forma references to Manila or lumpia, followed by 9,000 panels of bland, generic character content that could have just as easily been used for any character, irrespective of ethnicity or background.

I can't really give any exact answers either, except maybe to involve more PoC creators behind the scenes. At least I hope Marvel learns from its mistakes