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    Quote Originally Posted by witchboy View Post
    Johnny Storm is bi. He hooked up with Daken. It happened on the page and Marjorie Lui confirmed that it was her intention. Marvel just ignores it.
    One forgettable storyline by one writer with an agenda doesn't make it canon. Especially if it's never referenced by any other writers. Marvel is ignoring it, that means you should too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAS View Post
    One forgettable storyline by one writer with an agenda doesn't make it canon. Especially if it's never referenced by any other writers. Marvel is ignoring it, that means you should too.
    I know I do. Marjorie Liu can tweet all she wants..she doesn't own the character. Marvel/Disney is going to ignore her story esp with a movie on the horizon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    Aunt May & Agatha Harkness
    More seriously, ITSV Aunt May and Olivia Octavius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    But Daken back then was…….questionable in how he used his pheromone powers.
    Was it even consensual?
    Daken's phermones only work in close proximity. Johnny had a warm phone call with Daken basically saying he'd missed him and cared about him, showing his feelings were real.
    Also, Daken's phermones stimulate attraction, but it's not mind control. People still have complete autonomy with what they do with that attraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    I know I do. Marjorie Liu can tweet all she wants..she doesn't own the character. Marvel/Disney is going to ignore her story esp with a movie on the horizon.
    I mean, it was presumably approved by editorial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAS View Post
    One forgettable storyline by one writer with an agenda doesn't make it canon. Especially if it's never referenced by any other writers. Marvel is ignoring it, that means you should too.
    Exactly
    This guy gets it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Murdock View Post
    I mean, it was presumably approved by editorial.
    Bruh editorial is worse than the writers.
    Editorial made Sins past the story it is.Literally forced JMS to write the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    Bruh editorial is worse than the writers.
    Editorial made Sins past the story it is.Literally forced JMS to write the story.
    It was going to be a terrible story either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchboy View Post
    Daken's phermones only work in close proximity. Johnny had a warm phone call with Daken basically saying he'd missed him and cared about him, showing his feelings were real.
    Also, Daken's phermones stimulate attraction, but it's not mind control. People still have complete autonomy with what they do with that attraction.
    Daken is a cliche, depraved bi-sexual.

    Johnny may be bi, but he can certainly do a whole hell of a lot better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    Bruh editorial is worse than the writers.
    Editorial made Sins past the story it is.Literally forced JMS to write the story.
    And I don't think Sins Past has been retconned.

    It was a terrible story (I don't think JMS is totally absolved of blame. They had a problem with the kids belonging to Peter, I don't think they needed it to be Osborn), but the question is whether or not the decision is still part of canon.
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