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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    People say that about comics GA, so I'm not sure how much I really care about that criticism.
    In the comics though, it doesn't really apply. Leaving aside the jokes about the arrow cave/arrow car, Green Arrow doesn't fight many Batman villains and has no developed relationship with his mythos. The closest he has is Merlyn, who was a member of the League of Assassins, and who went a long while never fighting Green Arrow

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    We’ve seen GA go up against Joker, Riddler, and Penguin to name a few.

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    Does GA have any notable villains though? I mean, ones who've been around long enough.

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    How do you mean? He has his own rogues gallery sure.

    Big Game, Death Dealer, Discord, The Duke, Electrocutioner, Everyman. Are some you probably haven't heard of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    How do you mean? He has his own rogues gallery sure.

    Big Game, Death Dealer, Discord, The Duke, Electrocutioner, Everyman. Are some you probably haven't heard of.
    Every hero has some rogues gallery. But I mean notable villains. Maybe not Joker level, but at least Killer Croc or Captain Cold level.

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    The answer is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    The answer is the same.
    Ok, i don't quite follow

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    The answer is the same.
    Count Vertigo
    Merlyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    We’ve seen GA go up against Joker, Riddler, and Penguin to name a few.
    Every hero fights villains that aren't part of their normal rogues gallery. Hell, Aztek has fought Joker.

    In the comics, Green Arrow being a Batman rip off only really applies to naming some of his gear. I doubt it'd even be a thing were it not for Kevin Smith.

    In the live action, CW series though, they seemed to graft any part of the Bat mythos they could onto Ollie. Which is sad, as a social crusader hero would have been cool.

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    Wasn't he originally an arrow version of Batman until the 60s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Every hero fights villains that aren't part of their normal rogues gallery. Hell, Aztek has fought Joker.

    In the comics, Green Arrow being a Batman rip off only really applies to naming some of his gear. I doubt it'd even be a thing were it not for Kevin Smith.

    In the live action, CW series though, they seemed to graft any part of the Bat mythos they could onto Ollie. Which is sad, as a social crusader hero would have been cool.
    Rumor is that they weren't allowed to use Batman on the Smallville show, so they leaned more and more into GA being a dark vigilante. But considering the Mike Grell 80's run, it wasn't that much of a stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    How do you mean? He has his own rogues gallery sure.

    Big Game, Death Dealer, Discord, The Duke, Electrocutioner, Everyman. Are some you probably haven't heard of.
    Electrocutioner is a Batman villain.

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    Sorry, you're right.
    Some people argue Kamen Rider/Brother Electrocutioner is a GA villain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Sorry, you're right.
    Some people argue Kamen Rider/Brother Electrocutioner is a GA villain.
    I mean. Ollie and Electrocutioner have history, so it's not that far off. Sometimes villains become part of another hero's rogues gallery. It's normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicskull View Post
    I mean. Ollie and Electrocutioner have history, so it's not that far off. Sometimes villains become part of another hero's rogues gallery. It's normal.
    Not much of a history. The only Green Arrow stories he's been involved in are Rise of Arsenal and Fall of Green Arrow.

    It would be like calling Minister Blizzard a Batman villain because of his appearance in Batman Annual #1.

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