Heroes with rogue’s galleries are better franchise material then heroes without.

[CosmiComic]

Being that he's supposed to be the anti-patriotic version of Red Skull I don't think I really agree.

I guess if you look at it like that.

[DrNewGod]

Being that he's supposed to be the anti-patriotic version of Red Skull I don't think I really agree.

Redacted. TheRay may be almost as pretentious a pain as me, but when he's right, he's right.

[TheRay]

Aaaactuallyy it's right there in his wiki entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag-Smasher

[godisawesome]

I think this theory even applies to folktales that we don’t usually think of as franchises.

For instance, the best Robin Hood movies and TV shows tend to have at least two genuinely good and memorable villains - whether it’s just a fun hammy Sheriff and grumbly Guy of Gisbourne, or a hammy Sheriff and a creepy witch, Prince John and Sir Hiss, or the hat trick like in The Adventures of Robin Hood, where you’ve got a great Guy, a great Prince John, and a fun Sheriff.

More filled-out rogues galleries allow for more formidable challenges for the hero, but also more fun side conquests - you’ve got not in signifcant villains who can be taken down earlier, and more formidable ones to wait as the final boss.

[Speed Force League Unlimited]

It’s why the modern trend of creating heroes without personal rogue’s baffle me. Miss Marvel is a cool character, but I fear for her long term sustainability because I feel the higher ups at marvel think she can just skate along poaching villains from other franchises.

Considering how Joker takes a big chunk of Batman's lore and Magneto takes a large space in the X-Men lore that's pretty much a given. I can't say I've read stories of characters with nary a rogues gallery, save for maybe Deadpool who has the archenemy who is barely remembered by most writers.

[Mister Mets]

None of those are big name villains though, except maybe Morgan Le Fey

Writers don't get to choose which villains will be popular.

Sometimes it takes a while. Kilmonger became much more prominent with the Black Panther movie.

[CosmiComic]

Writers don't get to choose which villains will be popular.

Sometimes it takes a while. Kilmonger became much more prominent with the Black Panther movie.

I think that's only semi-true. They have to actually write the villains enough to allow them to catch on

[atomicskull]

This is false. The idea that villains can only be exclusive to the heroes they normally fight is a bit absurd, especially when these characters are in a shared universe.

[CosmiComic]

This is false. The idea that villains can only be exclusive to the heroes they normally fight is a bit absurd, especially when these characters are in a shared universe.

Yeah, some of the more prominent villains aren't restricted to one hero

[achilles]

Arrow seemed to make a specialty of this.

Supergirl was even worse. There's hardly a major Superman villain that show hasn't poached, along with more than a few others.

[CosmiComic]

Supergirl was even worse. There's hardly a major Superman villain that show hasn't poached, along with more than a few others.

Does she have that many villains of her own though? I can't recall her having any foes as prominent as Superman does

[TheRay]

There is a complicating factor that characters tend to have weaker enemies in their earliest stories when they're just getting used to their powers.

Yeah like Superman doesn't really take on Corrupt Politician #1 as often as he did when he first started, and that's probably just a shame.

[CosmiComic]

Yeah like Superman doesn't really take on Corrupt Politician #1 as often as he did when he first started, and that's probably just a shame.

Maybe writers could try to make the plots to where heroes can't just blast away their problems. Like, for instance, Superman can't just beat up a corrupt politician without reasonable cause or backlash, nor would he want. His powers help him but don't instantly solve the matter of others being involved, which he'd care about

[LordMikel]

Maybe writers could try to make the plots to where heroes can't just blast away their problems. Like, for instance, Superman can't just beat up a corrupt politician without reasonable cause or backlash, nor would he want. His powers help him but don't instantly solve the matter of others being involved, which he'd care about

Priest tried that in Justice League. It was really bad.

[CosmiComic]

Priest tried that in Justice League. It was really bad.

Oh, well, someone else can always try again. it's not like comics don't repeat stuff.

I haven't read Priest's JL that much. What happened in it?