Are Polaris and Rachel two potential Omega Level mutants in waiting?

[Will Evans]

They have the same powers as their parents Magneto and Jean, who are Omega Level.

Yet they themselves are not considered Omegas.

Could they reach Omega Level with enough time?

[cranger]

They have the same powers as their parents Magneto and Jean, who are Omega Level.

Yet they themselves are not considered Omegas.

Could they reach Omega Level with enough time?

In Hickman's version, they need to be the most powerful of their class and also be more powerful than anything achievable through other means.

So, they have two lines: kill their parents and any other mutant more powerful than them (and still be more powerful than any non-mutant), or somehow become more powerful than their parent.

I do not put it past writers to make either happen.

[Paleo_Rage]

In Hickman's version, they need to be the most powerful of their class and also be more powerful than anything achievable through other means.

So, they have two lines: kill their parents and any other mutant more powerful than them (and still be more powerful than any non-mutant), or somehow become more powerful than their parent.

I do not put it past writers to make either happen.

No, its not a rule that there can only be on omega level per power type or Jean and Quentin wouldn't be both be Omega Level Telepaths. Its just that they arent considered Omega level for Magnetism for Polaris or telepathy or telekinesis for Rachel. If anything even with similar powers its to bad Polaris powers couldn't be more electromagnetic as maybe that would have pushed Hickman to say she was an omega level in electromagnetism while Magneto was in omega level in Magnetism and Rachel imo could easily been omega level for telekinesis while Jean was that for telepathy.

Other folks that have people wondering about potential omega level seem to be Rogue, Synch, Manifold, and Meggan. I wonder what other character people think could be omega level that have been skipped over?

[cranger]

No, its not a rule that there can only be on omega level per power type or Jean and Quentin wouldn't be both be Omega Level Telepaths.

Fair enough, for some reason I thought there was some sort of explanation in an interview or something about why two telepaths were on there. In that case, there is nothing they can do since Chuck knows the future so he knows who the (potential) Omegas are, and if they are not on the list, they are not now nor ever Omega.

[rhaenylis]

Wasn't Rachel the original omega ?

[RamaBird]

Polaris should've already surpassed Magneto but since he's a main character and he's forever 40-50 years old, I don't see it happening soon.

[Uncanny X-Man]

Wasn't Rachel the original omega ?

This. The term was first coined specifically to refer to Rachel. She IS the original Omega.

[dirtynun]

Wasn't Rachel the original omega ?

Yh she was the first mutant stated to be of omega class... But the whole concepts of mutants with unlimited power preceede her. Plus she was pissed by the pheonix then so that may have affected nimrods readings I guess.

[salarta]

I've pointed out before that technically based on the current definition, Polaris should be considered Omega already. At different points in her history, she's been described either as having the potential to surpass Magneto, as being his equal (The Twelve), or as actually having surpassed him already (albeit when his powers were weakened).




That said, today's AIPT shows there's room for them to tweak the definition or how they came to this list of mutants in a way that would make Lorna not being considered Omega make sense despite this history.

[Havok83]

In Hickman's version, they need to be the most powerful of their class and also be more powerful than anything achievable through other means.

So, they have two lines: kill their parents and any other mutant more powerful than them (and still be more powerful than any non-mutant), or somehow become more powerful than their parent.

I do not put it past writers to make either happen.

Jean already died, but that didnt make Rachel an Omega bc she has a measurable upper limit to her power. Based on the definition, she doesnt have unlimited potential, or else she'd share the spot with Jean and Quentin

[Devaishwarya]

Given the nature of their powers...both Rachel and Lorna may only have measurable limits until they decide to push past those limits.

[Will Evans]

Given the nature of their powers...both Rachel and Lorna may only have measurable limits until they decide to push past those limits.

Exactly.

This is what I want to see

[salarta]

Which of course was decades ago.

[Micabe]

Given the nature of their powers...both Rachel and Lorna may only have measurable limits until they decide to push past those limits.

Have we ever seen Rachel (sans the Phoenix Force) or Lorona operate in outterspace for exstended periods of time under their own power like Jean can?

[Askani's Flame]

Have we ever seen Rachel (sans the Phoenix Force) or Lorona operate in outterspace for exstended periods of time under their own power like Jean can?

When was the last time Jean did that? Not trying to be argumentative but literally asking the question as I don't think I remember when Jean did it under her own power.