Planet Size X-Men review *spoilers*

[CoCoBandz]

The mutants intend to leverage politics and capitalism like every other developed nation in the world. They must be stopped! None of that works if humans don't participate. But as we saw in HOX #1, Mr. Mingyu and Mr. Kol are salivating to make greedy deals.

The avaricious humans can't help themselves.

[Covetous_One]

The mutants intend to leverage politics and capitalism like every other developed nation in the world. They must be stopped! None of that works if humans don't participate. But as we saw in HOX #1, Mr. Mingyu and Mr. Kol are salivating to make greedy deals.

And like every other nation long term it doesn’t work well

[Devaishwarya]

Exactatiously.

They're leveraging their position among their new "Brotherhood of Nations". In a "work with us, we'll work with you but...we're not taking your ****." kind of way.

[Covetous_One]

They're politicians...they also use a form of mind control in their own way, alls fair in LIES and politics

Believing words spoken is different than taking control of someone’s mind. Which usually comes back to bite the telepath in some way

[gonnagiveittoya]

They're politicians...they also use a form of mind control in their own way, alls fair in LIES and politics

Ehhhhh it's not waking nightmare type **** like the Purple Man but it's still definitely not just regular political manipulation

It also lends credence to the theory that Xavier might be making alterations to people telepathically to get them to go along with Krakoa. If it does turn out to be the case that would explain the offscreen turn for so many characters

[gonnagiveittoya]

If the X-men were truyly taking over earth with economic means why are most traditional big MU bussines still growing strong? like Tony and Reed´s or even Peter tecnology? this is like saying Wakanda will take over the world because they are the only ones who have control over vibranium. That scene is not about taking over the world with the economy, it´s about taking their part of the pay to fight off the bussines dedicated to sentinel development. Namor even commented they were way too soft, just have a little island and he´s not impressed because he REALLY wants to take over the world. So no, I don´t think they are really doing anything other traditional bussines are already doing.

I mean they explicitly said that was their plan. Use capitalism to buy out their enemies, build a wall off so humans can't go to krakoa, make mutants great again, the whole shebang. "when you own someone you control them, and we will do the same but better".

[Lucyinthesky]

I mean they explicitly said that was their plan. Use capitalism to buy out their enemies, build a wall off so humans can't go to krakoa, make mutants great again, the whole shebang. "when you own someone you control them, and we will do the same but better".

Then, when we have this influence we will use it. We will make sure the WRONG sort of people and you know who, no longer have any power

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So bassically their endgame is to build pro-mutant influence at the economic, diplomatic, education, financial level to diminish the influence of anti-mutant groups and in that way stop the war before it begins "like a fire left without oxigen" sure he could have told this in a nicer way and probably that would have been better but this is not a take over the world tactic because they are doing exactly what every other country does, diplomacy was created to sustain a nation´s particular objectives in the concert of nations using agreetments. Lest also note he started this speech after finding out there were assassins around them ready to take them out so even if they keep a nice actitude, traditional diplomacy was not going to be very useful at this moment.

[gonnagiveittoya]

This next chapter is literally called "Reign of X" in which the mutants have appointed a royal Regent to rule over Earth and Mars. That whole page there is saying that Krakoa can take over without using war. That the "terrorist"y ones now picked capitalism, and that Xavier doesnt believe cooexistence is realistically possible

[Kurolegacy]

My interpretation...

It's a threat. A "flex" if you will. Magneto carefully lays out to the other diplomats exactly what Krakoa is fully capable of doing in order to secure their safety and security, globally, against organisations like Orchis and "the wrong sort of people". He let's them know that he knows exactly how the game is played and that they have the ways and means to play it better and win.

It's not a plan which they will decidedly put in motion to take over the world.
As Xavier later tells the delegates to "Learn the Lesson. Evolve. Adapt. Become something more." Giving them a chance to do better, be better...or else. Thereby putting the onus on the other nations present to ensure the next moves they make are wise ones. Essentially telling them "Don't start none. Won't be none".

Admittedly it is a tad antagonistic but it's Mags...that's what we expect. And Charles, having just been killed and resurrected, was clearly over their ****...and rightly so.

Personally speaking, I find that it would be a lot nicer if we could get less mutantkind flexing on everybody else and more of building bridges that push everyone forward. At this point, it’s been around 2 years of this direction and we’re still at the prospect of mutantkind’s assistance towards humankind being purely political and them putting on displays like this as a flex on everyone during an event that Emma led with saying it was about building bridges and rekindling friendships. Like, at what point do we really get to see the interpersonal friendships that existed with human allies prior to this? And what of the humans who have been friends and allies to mutantkind; when do we get to see them get their due or acknowledgment. For the most part, it seems that we only ever really see Logan actively shown maintaining his bonds beyond just mutantkind. This is what I’ve been dying to see within the X-books, their more human side so to speak.

[Lucyinthesky]

This next chapter is literally called "Reign of X" in which the mutants have appointed a royal Regent to rule over Earth and Mars. That whole page there is saying that Krakoa can take over without using war.

They don´t need to take over when they can just extend their influence and do bussines with the people who are interested in doing them while diminishing the influence of the anti-mutant groups. It´s a battle for influence, not a take over the world and unless they are able to convince the rest of the world to form a unified goverment to represent earth with mutants leading it, then Alpha Fight and Sword will keep being the two main space programs who deal with galactic issues.

[gonnagiveittoya]

Right? The Hellfire Gala was advertised as being an opportunity to build a bridge forward together with humans. And it seemed true, till Planet Size, where instead they built a bridge to Mars...without humans, to dunk on them. Oh and now Krakoa appointed a Regent. Yay huge bait and switch?

[Devaishwarya]

They wouldn't need to Flex if the the other side would learn to play nicely. Especially as while they're all together having dinner, right there, the little ****-bag planned for their assassination.

[Lucyinthesky]

Personally speaking, I find that it would be a lot nicer if we could get less mutantkind flexing on everybody else and more of building bridges that push everyone forward. At this point, it’s been around 2 years of this direction and we’re still at the prospect of mutantkind’s assistance towards humankind being purely political and them putting on displays like this as a flex on everyone during an event that Emma led with saying it was about building bridges and rekindling friendships. Like, at what point do we really get to see the interpersonal friendships that existed with human allies prior to this? And what of the humans who have been friends and allies to mutantkind; when do we get to see them get their due or acknowledgment. For the most part, it seems that we only ever really see Logan actively shown maintaining his bonds beyond just mutantkind. This is what I’ve been dying to see within the X-books, their more human side so to speak.

I agree with this, it would be good to see if not new at least their traditional allies, friends and family more often, it´s what I have not been quite in agreetment with the narrative on Krakoa because they are talking about a huge cultural change but there´s been just one year, people can change yes but not that quikly, what would make more sense is to see different cultures of the world represented on Krakoa because the mutants who live there are from around the world.

I liked to see Cap America giving Scott the warning about the world being on Defcon 1 because of the existence of Arakko so more interactions like that with different characters would be an interesting contrast to groups like Orchis or people like Gyrich.

[JB]

Personally speaking, I find that it would be a lot nicer if we could get less mutantkind flexing on everybody else and more of building bridges that push everyone forward. At this point, it’s been around 2 years of this direction and we’re still at the prospect of mutantkind’s assistance towards humankind being purely political and them putting on displays like this as a flex on everyone during an event that Emma led with saying it was about building bridges and rekindling friendships. Like, at what point do we really get to see the interpersonal friendships that existed with human allies prior to this? And what of the humans who have been friends and allies to mutantkind; when do we get to see them get their due or acknowledgment. For the most part, it seems that we only ever really see Logan actively shown maintaining his bonds beyond just mutantkind. This is what I’ve been dying to see within the X-books, their more human side so to speak.

They needed to establish themselves as a formidable power otherwise they'll just continue to be hunted and killed (they still are). They're putting the brakes on the oppression and then, as we see with X-Men #1, they can return to the global community in a way that isn't all about flexing. We've already seen it with humans working in certain mutant labs, their relationship with Delores. Now that it seems that they have made their stand they can "build a future together" with humanity.

Just like the others posted, they want to use human capitalism to build influence to prevent evil humans from being able to finance their destruction.

[Kurolegacy]

They wouldn't need to Flex if the the other side would learn to play nicely.

Let’s be real, that is a forced editorial mandate used to try to justify the direction. It’s literally never going to happen because then there’d be no reason for the X-Men to exist. But the thing with flexes, when everything is nothing but flexes, it’s boring because it creates the ‘boring invincible’ archetype. Part of what makes the X-Men enjoyable is their human side. Not everything has to be a flex.