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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaStorm87 View Post
    Jesus, they're not going to create a book over some bit part nobody shitty character like Gabby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    I think lights out may be the new name
    Dark Ages always had the "... when the lights went out" slogan. They might rename it, or they are probably just trying to hype it up as much as they can before people clue in they are just finally releasing this thing from a year and a half ago.

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    I'm open for anything, really, but is there at least a bit more to the concept of Dark Ages than "all of a sudden, the power went out"? Because unless there's a valid and prolonged reason for the power shutting off and staying off (like is Magneto or a Shi'ar/Kree/Skrull device keep electro-magnetic fields planet-wide in a permanent state of disruption?), then the logical conclusion to this problem is Tony Stark/Reed Richards/All-Other-Smart-People turn the lights back on.

    I just feel like for stakes in the current iteration of the Marvel Universe, the world's power grid suddenly failing is pretty lowball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellion View Post
    I'm open for anything, really, but is there at least a bit more to the concept of Dark Ages than "all of a sudden, the power went out"? Because unless there's a valid and prolonged reason for the power shutting off and staying off (like is Magneto or a Shi'ar/Kree/Skrull device keep electro-magnetic fields planet-wide in a permanent state of disruption?), then the logical conclusion to this problem is Tony Stark/Reed Richards/All-Other-Smart-People turn the lights back on.

    I just feel like for stakes in the current iteration of the Marvel Universe, the world's power grid suddenly failing is pretty lowball.
    It's a EMP. All tech goes out: batteries, phones, radios, motors. It's not so easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellion View Post
    I'm open for anything, really, but is there at least a bit more to the concept of Dark Ages than "all of a sudden, the power went out"? Because unless there's a valid and prolonged reason for the power shutting off and staying off (like is Magneto or a Shi'ar/Kree/Skrull device keep electro-magnetic fields planet-wide in a permanent state of disruption?), then the logical conclusion to this problem is Tony Stark/Reed Richards/All-Other-Smart-People turn the lights back on.

    I just feel like for stakes in the current iteration of the Marvel Universe, the world's power grid suddenly failing is pretty lowball.
    I wouldn't think of it as very lowball. A lot can happen from even a temporary disruption, as demonstrated with what happens to Iron Man. Imagine all planes falling out of the sky and crashing at once. Not just the people on board dying, but those planes hitting buildings and infrastructure in various places, killing more people and destroying more capabilities in the process. And that's just regarding the planes. Not counting all the other machinery (e.g. computers) affected.
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    Please no x-books iím so done with these mediocre writes getting to write x-characters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter_fury View Post
    Please no x-books i’m so done with these mediocre writes getting to write x-characters
    Agreed, there's already enough mediocre talent on the books, we don't need any more.

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    Tom Taylor mediocre? Best seller writer and wrote some of the best x-books

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    Tom Taylor mediocre? Best seller writer and wrote some of the best x-books
    In your opinion as a biased Jean fan. I'm sure if it was as biased towards Emma as it was towards Jean you'd be singing a different time.

    Imo X-Men Red was high tier cringe garbage, and best forgotten about(Thankfully, Marvel agrees with me). But I guess if you enjoy the "white woman saviour" trope then you might enjoy it.

    Taylor isn't even close to Hickman, Vita, Ewing etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaStorm87 View Post
    In your opinion as a biased Jean fan. I'm sure if it was as biased towards Emma as it was towards Jean you'd be singing a different time.

    Imo X-Men Red was high tier cringe garbage, and best forgotten about(Thankfully, Marvel agrees with me). But I guess if you enjoy the "white woman saviour" trope then you might enjoy it.

    Taylor isn't even close to Hickman, Vita, Ewing etc.
    He is their level or even better. His Nightwing is great, all new wolverine, DCeased, cartoons, theatre plays

    I am starting to believe people trash him because he is one of the view that developed Jean grey

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaStorm87 View Post
    In your opinion as a biased Jean fan. I'm sure if it was as biased towards Emma as it was towards Jean you'd be singing a different time.

    Imo X-Men Red was high tier cringe garbage, and best forgotten about(Thankfully, Marvel agrees with me). But I guess if you enjoy the "white woman saviour" trope then you might enjoy it.

    Taylor isn't even close to Hickman, Vita, Ewing etc.
    yea xmen red was not good. thankfully that is a thing of the past.n
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    A lot can be said of X-men Red and we have went through it before in various threads over the last few years. However I think some fans had issue with Jean leading Storm and Jean easily dispatching Storm in that one issue. However at the time Storm came across better in Red than being knocked out constantly in X-men Gold (where she was being led by Kitty Pryde). X-men Red replaced the Jean Grey solo so it was always supposed to be a Jean centered book and was never going to be a Storm centered one.

    Taylor had success with some of his DC minis of a similar vein so we'll see where this goes. I will look at it and see if I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechaJeanix View Post
    A lot can be said of X-men Red and we have went through it before in various threads over the last few years. However I think some fans had issue with Jean leading Storm and Jean easily dispatching Storm in that one issue. However at the time Storm came across better in Red than being knocked out constantly in X-men Gold (where she was being led by Kitty Pryde). X-men Red replaced the Jean Grey solo so it was always supposed to be a Jean centered book and was never going to be a Storm centered one.

    Taylor had success with some of his DC minis of a similar vein so we'll see where this goes. I will look at it and see if I like it.
    we have to also keep in mind storm how storm was being handled in black panther at the time. that is what set the bar high. while I would agree that she was handled better in red versus gold, seeing her try to kill herself with lightning, and Jean having more meaningful conversations with characters storm had better relationships with were all examples of Taylor propping up jean in an inauthentic manner. it is what immediately turned me off to his writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    He is their level or even better. His Nightwing is great, all new wolverine, DCeased, cartoons, theatre plays

    I am starting to believe people trash him because he is one of the view that developed Jean grey
    His Jean Grey wasn't even good. As generic and bland as you can make a white girl protagonist. Didn't even come close to Morrison or Simpson's Jean.

    So no, some of us don't use 'How much does the author favour the character I stan" as a guide to the actual quality of their output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechaJeanix View Post
    A lot can be said of X-men Red and we have went through it before in various threads over the last few years. However I think some fans had issue with Jean leading Storm and Jean easily dispatching Storm in that one issue. However at the time Storm came across better in Red than being knocked out constantly in X-men Gold (where she was being led by Kitty Pryde). X-men Red replaced the Jean Grey solo so it was always supposed to be a Jean centered book and was never going to be a Storm centered one.

    Taylor had success with some of his DC minis of a similar vein so we'll see where this goes. I will look at it and see if I like it.
    I see what you're trying to do here and no, I didn't dislike it because they had the white girl free the black from slavery (This did make me cringe with the tone deafness) I disliked it because I thought the quality of writing was shit.

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