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    Quote Originally Posted by Covetous_One View Post
    Really the Galactic Council made an agreement to let Earth grow and no other empire interfere until Earth is ready to be included into the Galactic Council. Nova really was a representative of the Nova Corps when it had their own planet, but members saw him as Earth’s representative even though he himself never really accepted such a title. Though Brand wanting to open relations to other Empire’s is a good step at least ask others for consent for representation.
    So then they do not rule earth then... Also when did brand or anyone say that humans would not have a say in any matter regarding the solar system. Was it related to you by a writer? If not hen y that assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    Mutants aren't ruling earth though. They told the shiar they didn't and backed it up with "We rule that one." Even then mutants did not take direct control of arrako it is clearly stated in the diplomatic ring they are safe and subject to immunity but outside of that they are subject to the rules of Arrako. So mutants are actually for the most part still respecting earth's independence. I would imagine if earthers can make it to the diplomatic ring they can air a grievance. That's more than the average earther can do now. It might be nice that a woman who has her home infested with alien rats now has a place to go air their grievance.

    I am pretty sure there must be some Earthers still bitter in the grand scheme of things they never get to decide on the fate of the Skrull's etc after they invade and get forced back.
    Capitol of Sol doesn't mean earth is part is said system they can opt out if they so wish. But they need the drugs so I doubt they would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtynun View Post
    So then they do not rule earth then... Also when did brand or anyone say that humans would not have a say in any matter regarding the solar system. Was it related to you by a writer? If not hen y that assumption.
    Well when you unilaterally appoint a Regent without anyone’s consent it just shows how you don’t care about their input. Also you keep forgetting about other races of people in Sol besides humans and mutants which kinda suggest that you want the antagonism to go on. Not saying that’s what you said but you keep leaving Atlantians, Eternals, Nu/Inhumans, and others out of the ones who should also give consent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covetous_One View Post
    Well when you unilaterally appoint a Regent without anyone’s consent it just shows how you don’t care about their input. Also you keep forgetting about other races of people in Sol besides humans and mutants which kinda suggest that you want the antagonism to go on. Not saying that’s what you said but you keep leaving Atlantians, Eternals, Nu/Inhumans, and others out of the ones who should also give consent.

    And I said have the mutants stated that all these groups won't have a say? The regent is mutant plain and simple the capital is mutant that isnt changing. Now what you need to be asking yourself is the level of input other citizens of Sol would have in governing it because God knows if namor becomes regent, which is a possiblity no one is getting a say aside namor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtynun View Post
    Capitol of Sol doesn't mean earth is part is said system they can opt out if they so wish. But they need the drugs so I doubt they would.
    How TF are they supposed to opt out of being in the solar system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtynun View Post
    And I said have the mutants stated that all these groups won't have a say? The regent is mutant plain and simple the capital is mutant that isnt changing. Now what you need to be asking yourself is the level of input other citizens of Sol would have in governing it because God knows if namor becomes regent, which is a possiblity no one is getting a say aside namor.
    Well mutants stated the capitol of Sol is Arakki and like you said the Regent is a mutant so will just be a show of listening to input and not caring or genuinely acknowledging citizens concerns. It seems like as long as it a mutant everything is fine which it shouldn’t be looked at in that way. If the regent is Storm okay she is more than qualified and has already shown to make a great leader and diplomat, though if it’s not her then whomever it is would be concerning though again title of regent carries a weight that all of Sol should have a say in who that person is and that wasn’t given to them or even talked about.
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    I believe this is why both Alpha Fight and SWORD are recognized by other space civilizations like the Shiar, Kree/Skrull, etc as well as the Guardians of the Galaxy, they know Earth is still divided between factions, in fact in the comics this is why its still seen as an uncivilized system because they don´t have yet a unfied goverment like the ones on other sides of the galaxy, of course we as the reader know there´s a reason for that but they as character in the comic don´t know it, so in a way imo both SWORD and Alpha Fight speak for Sol because they represent different sections of that System.

    This is exactly the point Abigail wanted to share with Magneto in the first issue of SWORD, she speaks for Sol and doens´t see any difference between humans and mutants, she believes they need to go beyond that difference so they will be able to properly interact with other worlds in the galaxy, this is the same case with the new SWORD agency in Arrako. Magneto mostly agreed with her and that´s why he´s supporting SWORD position.
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    So the whole veneer of "Sword doesn't actually work for Krakoa" thing is out the window then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    So the whole veneer of "Sword doesn't actually work for Krakoa" thing is out the window then?
    It has been since Sword is fully sponsored by krakoa

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    Krakoa sucks

    Mutant Supremacy sucks..
    Supremacy of any kind sucks

    And I think a lot of people here are showing their true colors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbenito View Post

    It feels significant to me. It's got the planet and elsewhere talking.

    I dunno why you responded with an in universe panel for an out of universe observation.

    Everything is big and important 'in universe.'

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    So we do recognize on some level that Brand has a role with the intergalactic community. So if the Shiar and other members of the galactic community recognizes whoever is Regent of Sol as such how is that any different than the intergalactic community choosing who defended earth until it felt earth was ready. Also how does that violate anything when previous sword issues made it clear regents are a thing. also as a royal of the sol system by birth Storm is, based on what was presented, a viable candidate for regent of Sol (her ancestors can be dated back to the earliest days of earth and a few sorcerer supremes.). As set up in the story it would be on earthers to submit whoever they want their candidate to be as regent but if they don't even know what is going on it's not really anyone's job to inform all on earth of everything happening in the galaxy and wait for them to wrap their minds around it and come to a universal decision. But that's were i am. Brand started sword with Earthers and they shut her down, should she have given up trying to defend Sol.

    And that's not even touching on if the bright lady helped create the sol system and Storm family has her blessings who better to be the face of sol. Not saying it's going to happen but it's not that far of a reach for people to get behind her as a canidate if brand did choose her to be regent. That also doesn't stop earth from presenting somoene else as we saw during snarkwar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covetous_One View Post
    Well mutants stated the capitol of Sol is Arakki and like you said the Regent is a mutant so will just be a show of listening to input and not caring or genuinely acknowledging citizens concerns. It seems like as long as it a mutant everything is fine which it shouldn’t be looked at in that way. If the regent is Storm okay she is more than qualified and has already shown to make a great leader and diplomat, though if it’s not her then whomever it is would be concerning though again title of regent carries a weight that all of Sol should have a say in who that person is and that wasn’t given to them or even talked about.
    That is completely wrong you can't simply choose yourself as regent to be a entire solar system regent. That is completely nosense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    They at least respect some basic phisics law, like no moving planets
    Bahahahaha WHAT?!? So we can accept that Storm can control all manner of weather with her mind and Magneto can make himself fly because of... magnetism but now the laws of physics are relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    Can we please stop with this bullshit where if one character doesn't solve the X-Men comics problems for them they're a villain? This is never applied to literally any other franchise but the X-Men. You don't see Spider-Man fans complaining that the Avengers don't just blast Green Goblin out of the sky
    Okay and we can stop the bullshit of other marvel characters trying to police mutants when mutants arent doing **** that puts humanity at large at risk.

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