Moon Knight TV Show

[Panic]

Maybe ten years ago Jake Gyllenhaal could have made a good Moon Knight - I think he was up for Batman before Christian Bale won the role.

[Kirby101]

Maybe ten years ago Jake Gyllenhaal could have made a good Moon Knight - I think he was up for Batman before Christian Bale won the role.

Gyllenhaal is younger than Oscar Issac. Why coulhe play Spector now?

[Panic]

Gyllenhaal is younger than Oscar Issac. Why coulhe play Spector now?

You're right, of course - he's younger than I thought. I just assumed that the Batman casting being so long ago he was a bit older than he is.

[Jack The Tripper]

Gyllenhal is a great choice

[Joe Sidetracked]

Interview with Oscar Isaac.

spoilers:

They talk about how Steven summons Mr. Knight as his Moon Knight form and tease a possible third personality/Moon Knight form.

end of spoilers

I thought/hoped that would be the case after the scene where Steven prepares for the date.

Really hoping this show continues some of the intriguing character threads that have been dropped/hinted at already. The interplay between Spector's different personalities could make this a really rich character drama.

Gotta love how each MCU show has a totally unique vibe and perspective into the universe. Feels like the universe is just getting richer and richer.

[Seth_Brower]

It's a small thing, but I've been enjoying some youtube "reactions" to the 1st episode to see how people are taking it, and if it's missed in their edits or they just missed it, there seems to be quite few that when we shift to the "adventure" part of the episode and most people react to the resetting of the jaw ... that they miss all the glass scattered around him, and the fact he jumped/fell out of the REALLY HIGH window that the man waves to him from.
Granted this is MCU and there is a greater survivability of the hero's but MAN that appears to be a pretty high drop (at least 7-8 stories or so, so 85' possibly), so whatever else we have pretty strong "he is enhanced" indicator. Everything else we've seen on screen so far could be really skilled with the growing costume being the only conceit to any powers, but no falling that far and ONLY getting a dislocated jaw (and jarring him enough to switch) is a bit much for a normal skilled person.

[Panic]

It's a small thing, but I've been enjoying some youtube "reactions" to the 1st episode to see how people are taking it, and if it's missed in their edits or they just missed it, there seems to be quite few that when we shift to the "adventure" part of the episode and most people react to the resetting of the jaw ... that they miss all the glass scattered around him, and the fact he jumped/fell out of the REALLY HIGH window that the man waves to him from.
Granted this is MCU and there is a greater survivability of the hero's but MAN that appears to be a pretty high drop (at least 7-8 stories or so, so 85' possibly), so whatever else we have pretty strong "he is enhanced" indicator. Everything else we've seen on screen so far could be really skilled with the growing costume being the only conceit to any powers, but no falling that far and ONLY getting a dislocated jaw (and jarring him enough to switch) is a bit much for a normal skilled person.

I've seen one person suggest that he might actually have died, and that Khonshu has just resurrected him in that scene.

[Jack The Tripper]

I've seen one person suggest that he might actually have died, and that Khonshu has just resurrected him in that scene.

That’s what I assumed too - I’m a bit annoyed I know a fair bit about the character as it seems like this show would be an absolute ride for someone unfamiliar

[hareluyafan1]

"Go back to sleep you worm!" - Well, that's one way to introduce Khonsu! Like, yeah, he really does not care for Steven Grant at all, all he cares about is Marc (which, granted, Marc is Moon Knight and the actual capable one while Steven is more of an addition he didn't plan for, so that checks out). Most of his dialogue is just berating or belittling Steven and demanding Marc come back, although it seems like Marc's dead to him too if he fails. Not the most polite or positive God, but I guess the fact that he (and by extension his vessel Moon Knight) is the only thing stopping whatever Ammit has planned is supposed to balance out his abrasiveness.

I admit I'm not super-crazy about that either, especially being a deist myself. But I can live with Khonshu being abrasive and a bit of a jerk as long as he's ultimately on the side of right and not an outright villain. The whole "good isn't automatically nice" thing.

Also, at least some of what he says could just be big talk. How many times have we seen someone say some variant of "if you mess this up I'll kill you" when clearly they were just speaking hyperbolically?

So Arthur Harrow seems to have his own little cult/commune in...wherever they were (it didn't seem like it was still in the UK). Harrow worships Ammit who believes in justice, but a kind of absolute justice that means killing a genuinely good person if there's even a chance of them doing something evil in the future, which probably means bad things for humanity if she's ever released or Harrow gets to continue furthering her plans.

I wonder if Steven being "innocent" as a personality or not being real is why Harrow couldn't judge him? Or it couldn't make heads or tails of all the personalities together to judge one of them?

In Egyptian folklore after one's death Anubis would weigh their heart on a set of scales against a feather from Ma'at. If the heart was pure enough they would be allowed into the afterlife. If not Ammit would devour their heart.

Given that the judgement isn't meant to occur until after death and is meant to be overseen by Anubis and Ma'at, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out the Egyptian gods are angered by what Harrow is doing.

All in all I quite liked the episode but I have one question:

Where the heck is Marlene? Who the heck is this "Layla?" I hate when movie/TV shows do this; replace an established character with a new one that serves the same role. Like in TDKR, why didn't they have Holly as Selina's sidekick? Why was she replaced with "Jen?"

I'll still watch but I won't deny that bothers me.

[Frontier]

In Egyptian folklore after one's death Anubis would weigh their heart on a set of scales against a feather from Ma'at. If the heart was pure enough they would be allowed into the afterlife. If not Ammit would devour their heart.

Given that the judgement isn't meant to occur until after death and is meant to be overseen by Anubis and Ma'at, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out the Egyptian gods are angered by what Harrow is doing.

All in all I quite liked the episode but I have one question:

Where the heck is Marlene? Who the heck is this "Layla?" I hate when movie/TV shows do this; replace an established character with a new one that serves the same role. Like in TDKR, why didn't they have Holly as Selina's sidekick? Why was she replaced with "Jen?"

I'll still watch but I won't deny that bothers me.

I think they've said there's a specific reason they didn't use any of the traditional Moon Knight supporting cast for this show.

[thwhtGuardian]

I admit I'm not super-crazy about that either, especially being a deist myself. But I can live with Khonshu being abrasive and a bit of a jerk as long as he's ultimately on the side of right and not an outright villain. The whole "good isn't automatically nice" thing.

Also, at least some of what he says could just be big talk. How many times have we seen someone say some variant of "if you mess this up I'll kill you" when clearly they were just speaking hyperbolically?



In Egyptian folklore after one's death Anubis would weigh their heart on a set of scales against a feather from Ma'at. If the heart was pure enough they would be allowed into the afterlife. If not Ammit would devour their heart.

Given that the judgement isn't meant to occur until after death and is meant to be overseen by Anubis and Ma'at, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out the Egyptian gods are angered by what Harrow is doing.

All in all I quite liked the episode but I have one question:

Where the heck is Marlene? Who the heck is this "Layla?" I hate when movie/TV shows do this; replace an established character with a new one that serves the same role. Like in TDKR, why didn't they have Holly as Selina's sidekick? Why was she replaced with "Jen?"

I'll still watch but I won't deny that bothers me.

For one, I'm really glad that Marlene seems to be absent, as much as I love the classic stories and as much as I loved seeing those images of her parading around in night gowns and bikinis when I was growing up...I got a little skeeved out reading them last week as that's literally all she's there for; to patch up Marc when he comes home, have sex with him and then admonish him for his activities. Outside of her introduction she had no real self motivation or agency at all.
You could fix that in a modern take, make her a smart strong willed woman who helps with his investigations; maybe make her a SHIELD agent trying to make sure Marc doesn't go too far off the reservation...but part of me thinks it would be better if she just vanished all together.

[DigiCom]

For one, I'm really glad that Marlene seems to be absent, as much as I love the classic stories and as much as I loved seeing those images of her parading around in night gowns and bikinis when I was growing up...I got a little skeeved out reading them last week as that's literally all she's there for; to patch up Marc when he comes home, have sex with him and then admonish him for his activities. Outside of her introduction she had no real self motivation or agency at all.
You could fix that in a modern take, make her a smart strong willed woman who helps with his investigations; maybe make her a SHIELD agent trying to make sure Marc doesn't go too far off the reservation...but part of me thinks it would be better if she just vanished all together.

Don't forget "denying his core identity because she likes the rich playboy better".

[hareluyafan1]

For one, I'm really glad that Marlene seems to be absent, as much as I love the classic stories and as much as I loved seeing those images of her parading around in night gowns and bikinis when I was growing up...I got a little skeeved out reading them last week as that's literally all she's there for; to patch up Marc when he comes home, have sex with him and then admonish him for his activities. Outside of her introduction she had no real self motivation or agency at all.
You could fix that in a modern take, make her a smart strong willed woman who helps with his investigations; maybe make her a SHIELD agent trying to make sure Marc doesn't go too far off the reservation...but part of me thinks it would be better if she just vanished all together.

Like you said though that could have been fixed. Heck they're already taking liberties with Steven Grant. You could have Marlene as Marc's partner-in-crime, a fellow former mercenary, you could do anything. Instead, they just invented some brand new character to fill the same position. I hate that. It's a pointless change that adds nothing.

Also even in the comics Marlene was not just eye candy. She helped Moon Knight out and saved his life more than once.

I think they've said there's a specific reason they didn't use any of the traditional Moon Knight supporting cast for this show.

Well we'll see.

[Anthony W]

Like you said though that could have been fixed. Heck they're already taking liberties with Steven Grant. You could have Marlene as Marc's partner-in-crime, a fellow former mercenary, you could do anything. Instead, they just invented some brand new character to fill the same position. I hate that. It's a pointless change that adds nothing.

Generic, but in a acceptable way?

Also even in the comics Marlene was not just eye candy. She helped Moon Knight out and saved his life more than once. Well we'll see.

I was never a Moon Knight fan, but maybe it's best that the character was left out rather than see her turned into something that just wasn't her.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Gyllenhaal is younger than Oscar Issac. Why coulhe play Spector now?

He became Mysterio but other than that he would've been a good choice.