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Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
This is further shown by Hope and Jamie having to amp several omegas powers. If its unlimited why would they need help
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un·de·fin·able | \ ˌən-di-ˈfī-nə-bəl
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Definition of undefinable
: unable to be defined or precisely described : indefinable a seemingly undefinable term … he felt an undefinable dread laying hold on him …— George Eliot
That is why there can be two omega level telepaths it's not a competition it's that their power in the specific class can never can never be defined in terms of limits. Like Storm for instance, thor anywhere summons the same whether, Storms ability to the manipulate weather changes based on dimension, planet, resources available. If there is an infinite amount of stars her powers could theoretically work an infinite amount of ways where as Thor powers will always act the same no matter where he is.
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Um so i CANT reveal the plot as it delves into some wilde, innovative concepts for storytelling. the whole use of omega and beyond omega plays a role in it.
So my boss is not a normal writer and thats why its been very easy for her to find "roadblocks" on powers that are considered virtually unlimited. using psychic powers for example, she already discussed multiple powers exceeding what psychic forces are capable of, even at their infinite heights, this is new grounds that ive never seen. Using the Phoenix force as an example, an omniversal occurrence (in this new narrative) alters the fabric of existence, and the Phoenix seeks to attack and destroy its source... only to realize by doing so will cause all that is utter annihilation (and that's not the only catch-22). so theres a lot of... mindfuckery with some of these concepts but once you see it manifest, i believe it would become way more comprehensive.
Omega woudnt be on the same level as cosmic even if possessing cosmic level feats. theres explanation to this, that basically involves tiering of power that i dont remember in full.
"Beyond Omega" has to deal with mutants born of or connected to "unnatural/not normal" realities, therefore they posses powers that of the writer's new insane concepts. I cant spoil what this will mean, honestly couldnt explain it if i could. one could definitely call this "high concept" storytelling for sure.
i definitely dont agree that TOAA should be the only one surpassing Omega mutants, that doesnt make too much sense to me. However the idea of "beyond infinite/limitless or unlimited" IS supposed to represent concepts that are outside cosmic law, and that is going to be very interesting to see!
At anyrate my reason for being her is to find out what is the most cohesive Mutant classification tiering and pass it to my boss so she can write something within familiarity to current canon yet be properly refined by her upgrades
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LOL trust me... this DOES go beyond the Beyonder tale. the narrative hits "beyond the beyond the beyond" like nothing ive seen in comic form (from what i've researched) also, keep in mind that "beyond omega" mutants aren't "all powerful" but simply possess "high concept" powers. "Beyond omegas" are also pretty vulnerable due to their circumstances, which is compromised in an existential sort of way. They are worried enough with their own plight, much less the plight of "normal" Mutants.
We're not making any more of a mess than these classifications already are. I couldn't even GOOGLE "mutant class" and find any coherent information. theres also tiers that are unexplained and not laid out like "highest order" "Alpha psi" and such.
the narrative introduces these new concepts to open the doors for far more innovation and creative story development.
If Hickman's so such a superior classification, mind linking me to it so I can pass it on?
LOL funny enough, there IS such at thing as "omega level technopathy" and even "beyond omega technopath", and the exploration of such is literally terrifying.
there's actually another term that superceds "technopath" but is of the same power type, but what its reimagined to be is literally chilling and how "unlimited" "techno-power" is by the writer's exploration is nothing short of cosmic/beyond cosmic horror but with a technological twist. So keep that in mind
See these types of arguments is why power levels are bullshit
Yeah, this is true.
I mean, what's more thematically impactful, a dozen mutants like Magma and Rictor and Avalanche and Petra working together (some of them former enemies!), to sculpt / blaze a hole into Mars core and then a dozen more like Sunspot, Firestar, Sunfire, etc. to heat the iron to be inserted, or Vulcan and Magneto doing it all by themselves?
In the Age of Krakoa, *many mutants* working together, from formerly opposing factions, would seem to be the way to go. One uber-mutant telling them all to stand down, he got this, sounds more like the sort of attitude that would define an Age of Apocalypse, all about the big man and his ego...
This Omega stuff seems like a whole lotta hubris.
I can see more and more why Jean stepped back from the council. When she was most powerful was *not* the high point of her life. (And she loves some dudes who are clearly not Omega-tier.)
This list is over ten years old. I didn't write it. I think I plucked it from reddit or some other other discussion website. I found the classifications helpful for my own writing purposes and held onto it. The argument could be made that several mutants could be shuffled around, Cyclops being one of them. It doesn't address secondary mutations and I was always curious about the rarity of that and where it would fit in. For example; Shatterstar started out with a flawed shockwave power that ranked him as maybe a Delta. His secondary power to teleport (across galaxies, no less) could possibly bump him up to a Beta.