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    Hey everyone!

    So my boss wants me to find out where there's a good chart explaining in detail, mutant classifications. The wiki seems to be in "parts, pieces and bobs" she says and would like to know where there's full listing of each classificiation and sub classifications.

    examples given are, "how many Greek letters are used?" this was said as a joke, but the point is important... how many levels are there using Greek letters?

    She and her team only knows of the following tiers in said order, seeking assistance on structuring this to canon:

    BEYOND OMEGA- Mutants of incalculable power, beyond limitless

    OMEGA- Mutants of unlimited potential

    Alpha- Mutants most powerful in one particular power

    Beta- Mutants that are very powerful, requiring lethal force to subdue them

    Gamma- Mutants with powers that can do sizable damage

    Epsilon- Mutants with no real threatening powers, or their mutation is purely physical in appearance, bearing no powers.

    Within are sub-categories like "Alpha-"" or "Alpha/Beta-""" and High Order or Highest Order of particular power types. What are the other orders, and what do they mean? However she wants to know ALL the sub-cates and rough definition of these.

    Any help on this please and thanks!

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    Which mutant is beyond omega. 1st time I've heard about that classification.

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    I've had the following on file for some time now. I hope it can of some use to you:

    Omega Class: An Omega-level mutant is one with the most powerful genetic potential of their mutant abilities. Some abilities depicted by mutants described as Omega-level include immortality, extreme manipulation of matter and energy, high psionic ability, strong telekinesis, and the potential to exist beyond the boundaries of the known physical universe. No firm definition has been offered in comics. Mutants that have been confirmed as Omega-level include Jean Grey, Vulcan, Rachel Summers, Iceman, Legion, Magneto. These mutants are the rarest of all mutants.

    Alpha Class: The Alpha Mutants are the most powerful and most feared mutants. Alpha mutants have extremely powerful mutant traits without any significant flaws. Less than 10% of mutants are Alpha mutants so they are very rare. Some of the Alpha mutants include Cyclops, Gambit, Professor X, Havok, Colossus, and Emma Frost.

    Beta Class: As far as how potent their powers are Beta Mutants are on the same level as Alpha mutants. The difference between Beta Mutants and Alpha Mutants is that the Beta Mutants have flaws, albeit very small flaws. The Beta mutants are also believed to be about 10% of the mutant population. Some examples of Beta mutants are Beast, Angel, Wolverine, Mystique and Sabretooth.

    Gamma Class: Gamma mutants have very powerful mutants (starting to see a pattern?) but they have flaws. Unlike the Beta mutants a Gamma mutant's flaw is a major flaw that makes their life very hard. The best example is probably Rogue. Rogue can absorb anybody's power, which makes her very powerful, but she can't touch people making any kind of romantic life difficult. Also, while Alpha and Beta mutants can pass as regular looking humans, the majority of Gamma mutants cannot because they have physical defects like Blob or Marrow.

    Delta Class: Delta Mutants are like Alpha mutants in that they don't have any significant flaws. The only problem is that Delta mutants don't have powers that match an Alpha mutant, or even a Beta or Gamma mutant. At least 50% of mutants are Delta mutants making them the most common type of mutant. Some examples of Delta mutants are Forge, Domino and Calisto.

    Epsilon Class: Epsilon mutants or like Gamma mutants in that they have major flaws that make their lives very difficult. They also like Delta mutants have little or no significant powers to speak of. Approximately 20% of mutants are Epsilon mutants making them the second most common type of mutant. An example of an Epsilon class mutant is Beak.

    Zeta Class: Zeta class mutants make up roughly 10% of the mutant population. They are mutants who have the "X-Gene", but it is still latent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solitaryhawk View Post
    I've had the following on file for some time now. I hope it can of some use to you:

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    What about Storm, Polaris, Karma, Magik, Banshee?

    I don't think Gambit is Alpha, he hasn't really demonstrate any. I think Storm and Polaris are both Alpha.

    I don't think Beast and Angel are Beta, their powers are pretty mild. There are much more powerful mutants than them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    What about Storm, Polaris, Karma, Magik, Banshee?

    I don't think Gambit is Alpha, he hasn't really demonstrate any. I think Storm and Polaris are both Alpha.

    I don't think Beast and Angel are Beta, their powers are pretty mild. There are much more powerful mutants than them.
    Storm is Omega. House of X #1 has a list of all the Omegas. There are only 12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    What about Storm, Polaris, Karma, Magik, Banshee?

    I don't think Gambit is Alpha, he hasn't really demonstrate any. I think Storm and Polaris are both Alpha.

    I don't think Beast and Angel are Beta, their powers are pretty mild. There are much more powerful mutants than them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra View Post
    Hold on, gonna put some pop-corn in the microwave
    I am going to take the cupped soda, some foolishness is about to abound as we can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    What about Storm, Polaris, Karma, Magik, Banshee?

    I don't think Gambit is Alpha, he hasn't really demonstrate any. I think Storm and Polaris are both Alpha.

    I don't think Beast and Angel are Beta, their powers are pretty mild. There are much more powerful mutants than them.
    You think I'm gonna classify ALL the mutants? lol

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    Power levels are, essentially, total arbitrary bullshit. Non-Omegas have accomplished feats on par with real Omegas, because of story convenience. Likewise, when a writer doesn't want an Omega to instantly end the story with their godlike powers (which is essentially all the time) the Omegas become ridiculously weaker for the sake of the story not instantly ending. It's why one second Magneto can be chucking meteors and the next gripe about how nothing can be done about Orchis.

    The concept of Mutant Circuits has also made the concept seem even more ridiculous, where non Omegas like Goldballs can accomplish insane feats working together with other mutants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    What about Storm, Polaris, Karma, Magik, Banshee?

    I don't think Gambit is Alpha, he hasn't really demonstrate any. I think Storm and Polaris are both Alpha.

    I don't think Beast and Angel are Beta, their powers are pretty mild. There are much more powerful mutants than them.
    So Gambit chose to be kinda on a Beta level, but naturally is actually Omega. In what my boss is writing, Gambit would evolve into becoming a... I guess "High Order" Omega level Mutant.

    Storm varies. I think sometimes she's Alpha and other times by fans lableed Omega. My supervisor (fi you will) says Storm is much more "Alpha" as she only has a limited range of what her powers are and can do, despite destructive nature. Omega she says (according to her research) is a Mutant with virtually unlimited potential in what they can do and cause. For her, Matthew Mallow is the best example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMikey View Post
    So Gambit chose to be kinda on a Beta level, but naturally is actually Omega. In what my boss is writing, Gambit would evolve into becoming a... I guess "High Order" Omega level Mutant.

    Storm varies. I think sometimes she's Alpha and other times by fans lableed Omega. My supervisor (fi you will) says Storm is much more "Alpha" as she only has a limited range of what her powers are and can do, despite destructive nature. Omega she says (according to her research) is a Mutant with virtually unlimited potential in what they can do and cause. For her, Matthew Mallow is the best example.
    Storm is a certified Omega as she is literally listed as an Omega mutant in canon according to current definition. Most of the Omega mutants were all a part of the recent Mars feat. So it's pretty clear who is currently Omega and who is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solitaryhawk View Post
    I've had the following on file for some time now. I hope it can of some use to you:

    Omega Class: An Omega-level mutant is one with the most powerful genetic potential of their mutant abilities. Some abilities depicted by mutants described as Omega-level include immortality, extreme manipulation of matter and energy, high psionic ability, strong telekinesis, and the potential to exist beyond the boundaries of the known physical universe. No firm definition has been offered in comics. Mutants that have been confirmed as Omega-level include Jean Grey, Vulcan, Rachel Summers, Iceman, Legion, Magneto. These mutants are the rarest of all mutants.

    Alpha Class: The Alpha Mutants are the most powerful and most feared mutants. Alpha mutants have extremely powerful mutant traits without any significant flaws. Less than 10% of mutants are Alpha mutants so they are very rare. Some of the Alpha mutants include Cyclops, Gambit, Professor X, Havok, Colossus, and Emma Frost.

    Beta Class: As far as how potent their powers are Beta Mutants are on the same level as Alpha mutants. The difference between Beta Mutants and Alpha Mutants is that the Beta Mutants have flaws, albeit very small flaws. The Beta mutants are also believed to be about 10% of the mutant population. Some examples of Beta mutants are Beast, Angel, Wolverine, Mystique and Sabretooth.

    Gamma Class: Gamma mutants have very powerful mutants (starting to see a pattern?) but they have flaws. Unlike the Beta mutants a Gamma mutant's flaw is a major flaw that makes their life very hard. The best example is probably Rogue. Rogue can absorb anybody's power, which makes her very powerful, but she can't touch people making any kind of romantic life difficult. Also, while Alpha and Beta mutants can pass as regular looking humans, the majority of Gamma mutants cannot because they have physical defects like Blob or Marrow.

    Delta Class: Delta Mutants are like Alpha mutants in that they don't have any significant flaws. The only problem is that Delta mutants don't have powers that match an Alpha mutant, or even a Beta or Gamma mutant. At least 50% of mutants are Delta mutants making them the most common type of mutant. Some examples of Delta mutants are Forge, Domino and Calisto.

    Epsilon Class: Epsilon mutants or like Gamma mutants in that they have major flaws that make their lives very difficult. They also like Delta mutants have little or no significant powers to speak of. Approximately 20% of mutants are Epsilon mutants making them the second most common type of mutant. An example of an Epsilon class mutant is Beak.

    Zeta Class: Zeta class mutants make up roughly 10% of the mutant population. They are mutants who have the "X-Gene", but it is still latent.
    Hands down this is the best lay out I've seen so far, so thanks for that!

    there are a few minor details I need...

    I'll use Jean Grey for an example (as I couldn't find any other) she's described in the wiki as "Alpha-Psi" and "Psionic of the Highest Order". Vulcan was also described as "High Order Energy Manipulator". What are these orders? What's their range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solitaryhawk View Post
    I've had the following on file for some time now. I hope it can of some use to you:

    Omega Class: An Omega-level mutant is one with the most powerful genetic potential of their mutant abilities. Some abilities depicted by mutants described as Omega-level include immortality, extreme manipulation of matter and energy, high psionic ability, strong telekinesis, and the potential to exist beyond the boundaries of the known physical universe. No firm definition has been offered in comics. Mutants that have been confirmed as Omega-level include Jean Grey, Vulcan, Rachel Summers, Iceman, Legion, Magneto. These mutants are the rarest of all mutants.

    Alpha Class: The Alpha Mutants are the most powerful and most feared mutants. Alpha mutants have extremely powerful mutant traits without any significant flaws. Less than 10% of mutants are Alpha mutants so they are very rare. Some of the Alpha mutants include Cyclops, Gambit, Professor X, Havok, Colossus, and Emma Frost.

    Beta Class: As far as how potent their powers are Beta Mutants are on the same level as Alpha mutants. The difference between Beta Mutants and Alpha Mutants is that the Beta Mutants have flaws, albeit very small flaws. The Beta mutants are also believed to be about 10% of the mutant population. Some examples of Beta mutants are Beast, Angel, Wolverine, Mystique and Sabretooth.

    Gamma Class: Gamma mutants have very powerful mutants (starting to see a pattern?) but they have flaws. Unlike the Beta mutants a Gamma mutant's flaw is a major flaw that makes their life very hard. The best example is probably Rogue. Rogue can absorb anybody's power, which makes her very powerful, but she can't touch people making any kind of romantic life difficult. Also, while Alpha and Beta mutants can pass as regular looking humans, the majority of Gamma mutants cannot because they have physical defects like Blob or Marrow.

    Delta Class: Delta Mutants are like Alpha mutants in that they don't have any significant flaws. The only problem is that Delta mutants don't have powers that match an Alpha mutant, or even a Beta or Gamma mutant. At least 50% of mutants are Delta mutants making them the most common type of mutant. Some examples of Delta mutants are Forge, Domino and Calisto.

    Epsilon Class: Epsilon mutants or like Gamma mutants in that they have major flaws that make their lives very difficult. They also like Delta mutants have little or no significant powers to speak of. Approximately 20% of mutants are Epsilon mutants making them the second most common type of mutant. An example of an Epsilon class mutant is Beak.

    Zeta Class: Zeta class mutants make up roughly 10% of the mutant population. They are mutants who have the "X-Gene", but it is still latent.
    Why is Cyclops considered as ALPHA? Like Rogue, while being powerful, he has a major flaw as he cannot control his optic blast, shouldn't he be a BETA?

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    Omega doesn't mean infinite potential or power anymore. It's been retconed to mean the highest registered power that has not been surpassed by human means. It means you can be knocked off the list if a more powerful human comes around and the region makes their powers finite

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Omega doesn't mean infinite potential or power anymore. It's been retconed to mean the highest registered power that has not been surpassed by human means. It means you can be knocked off the list if a more powerful human comes around and the region makes their powers finite
    It means undefinable upper limit to your power level. Synonyms for undefinable are insurmountable, limitless, incalculable, limitless, uncountable, unmeasurable....etc. omega mutants are essentially unlimited in their powers specific designation. It's not a no human can pass you so you are omega. Because manifold was not designated omega and he is a universal level spatial manipulator.... But according to knull out there somewhere in the universe there is someone more and he has a definable upper limit which is he can't use his powers outside his native universe.

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