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    Default Knowing it’s ending, how would you rate Spencer’s run?

    High points/low points?

    I realise with the Kindred stuff, we can’t really tell how good and how much of an impact this run will have on Spider-Man going forward. But we can sure speculate. What do you guys think?

    I think - if it sticks the landing with everything it’s promised (addressing OMD in some capacity, Peter/MJ relationship, satisfying conclusion to Harry) it really could be one of the best. But it literally comes down to the landing. If it falters in anyway, I fear it’s going to drop into being a forgettable run with a few high points.

    High points -
    Sins Rising. 850 was fabulous.
    Low points -
    Whatever the hell that 2099 story was trying to be.

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    A good pallet cleanser after Slott and some genuinely fun stories, to me it felt more Spider-Man than we'd been getting prior, but also a lot of missed opportunities, inconsistent rotating art, and less than stellar pacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    A good pallet cleanser after Slott and some genuinely fun stories, to me it felt more Spider-Man than we'd been getting prior, but also a lot of missed opportunities, inconsistent rotating art, and less than stellar pacing.
    I agree, it was a really fun series that wasn't too dour; but I was sad once Ottley left - but happy when Gleason came on board

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    Don't cry that it's over, be glad it happened.

    On the whole it's quite a solid consistent run, it's funny, action-driven, character-centered. It's got great single issues and great stories.
    -- HUNTED
    -- ASM#1
    -- "Trivia Night" ASM#5-6
    -- ASM#25, #29, #60 (what I'm calling "The MJ trilogy")
    -- ASM#850 aka the greatest Green Goblin story since Paul Jenkins and Mark Millar wrote Spider-Man.

    Along with Gerry Duggan's MARAUDERS, it's the one Marvel title that's been a consistent ball of fun and charisma over the last three years.

    Spencer's Run > O'Neill, Wein, Wolfman, The 2nd Clone Saga and Post-Clone Saga, BND, Dan Slott.
    On par with = Tom Defalco.
    More consistent (if not as great) than --> Lee-Romita, David Michelinie

    It's not in my pantheon i.e. Ditko, Conway, Stern, JMS, but then that's a very high bar anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Don't cry that it's over, be glad it happened.

    On the whole it's quite a solid consistent run, it's funny, action-driven, character-centered. It's got great single issues and great stories.
    -- HUNTED
    -- ASM#1
    -- "Trivia Night" ASM#5-6
    -- ASM#25, #29, #60 (what I'm calling "The MJ trilogy")
    -- ASM#850 aka the greatest Green Goblin story since Paul Jenkins and Mark Millar wrote Spider-Man.

    Along with Gerry Duggan's MARAUDERS, it's the one Marvel title that's been a consistent ball of fun and charisma over the last three years.

    Spencer's Run > O'Neill, Wein, Wolfman, The 2nd Clone Saga and Post-Clone Saga, BND, Dan Slott.
    On par with = Tom Defalco.
    More consistent (if not as great) than --> Lee-Romita, David Michelinie

    It's not in my pantheon i.e. Ditko, Conway, Stern, JMS, but then that's a very high bar anyway.
    Not crying that it's over, nor glad that it happened.

    For me Spencer never just hit the heights he did in Superior Foes of Spider-man. I enjoyed the hell out of that book. But his ASM just felt tepid to me, and drawn out. Adding Fred Myers/Boomerang as a roommate and supporting character I think took too much attention away from Peter. I liked the Hunted storyline, I liked what Spencer's done with the Osborns and possibly addressing OMD through Kindred, but for me he's really going to have to nail the landing for me to want to say this was a memorable run in the same breath I would say Super Foes was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpideyClone View Post
    Not crying that it's over, nor glad that it happened.


    For me Spencer never just hit the heights he did in Superior Foes of Spider-man. I enjoyed the hell out of that book.
    That's fair. The Superior Foes of Spider-Man is a great book and it's a more original contribution to Spider-Man's mythos than I suppose most of the stuff in his run, which probably will make it more valuable going forward. You are never gonna imagine Spider-Man's lower tier rogues the same way after Spencer.

    But his ASM just felt tepid to me, and drawn out. Adding Fred Myers/Boomerang as a roommate and supporting character I think took too much attention away from Peter.
    If you jot it down, he wasn't present in as many issues as you make it out to be.

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    Even though there was some good action...I am not going to miss him.

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    I found it very mid. It started off great, but it honestly felt like it the vast majority of the run was filler/treading water except for a couple of the event stories. It also was very much more Spidey-focused than Peter-focused, which is the exact opposite of what I want from any Spider-Man run. There were some standout stories and issues though, but the overall tepidity means I'll probably rate it as a B- overall. Of course, there's a lot of room for my rating to change depending on how the conclusion of this run goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Don't cry that it's over, be glad it happened.

    On the whole it's quite a solid consistent run, it's funny, action-driven, character-centered. It's got great single issues and great stories.
    -- HUNTED
    -- ASM#1
    -- "Trivia Night" ASM#5-6
    -- ASM#25, #29, #60 (what I'm calling "The MJ trilogy")
    -- ASM#850 aka the greatest Green Goblin story since Paul Jenkins and Mark Millar wrote Spider-Man.

    ——————

    Spencer's Run > O'Neill, Wein, Wolfman, The 2nd Clone Saga and Post-Clone Saga, BND, Dan Slott.
    On par with = Tom Defalco.
    More consistent (if not as great) than --> Lee-Romita, David Michelinie
    ^^^That’s a lot more concise than what I was just typing up.
    Honestly, it’s the first time in over twenty years that I’ve really enjoyed Spider-man, much less collected his book regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riv86672 View Post
    ^^^That’s a lot more concise than what I was just typing up.
    Honestly, it’s the first time in over twenty years that I’ve really enjoyed Spider-man, much less collected his book regularly.
    Same here, thanks!!!

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    besides 2099 arc I enjoyed the run. Didnt have any major expectations for it to begin with. Well since its not finished yet that can changed. Still dont know how the kindred plot will be wrap up but hopefully it will be done gracefully. Oh in terms of art really hated its inconsistency
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    Quote Originally Posted by your_name_here View Post
    High points/low points?

    I realise with the Kindred stuff, we can’t really tell how good and how much of an impact this run will have on Spider-Man going forward. But we can sure speculate. What do you guys think?

    I think - if it sticks the landing with everything it’s promised (addressing OMD in some capacity, Peter/MJ relationship, satisfying conclusion to Harry) it really could be one of the best. But it literally comes down to the landing. If it falters in anyway, I fear it’s going to drop into being a forgettable run with a few high points.

    High points -
    Sins Rising. 850 was fabulous.
    Low points -
    Whatever the hell that 2099 story was trying to be.
    I agree with you 100%. EVERYTHING will come down to the ending. Its conclusion will determine if this is an average run or an epic run, for me at least. My biggest fear is the "Lost Effect" (previously called the Chris Carter or X-Files Effect); Spencer doesn't get a chance to or bothers to resolve the Kindred mystery(ies).

    Lost Effect -

    "The Lost Effect happens when a work is wholly focused on twists or not building up to a satisfactory resolution, or the plot gets so bloated by nagging questions that there are no major payoffs"
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    Quote Originally Posted by your_name_here View Post
    High points/low points?

    I realise with the Kindred stuff, we can’t really tell how good and how much of an impact this run will have on Spider-Man going forward. But we can sure speculate. What do you guys think?

    I think - if it sticks the landing with everything it’s promised (addressing OMD in some capacity, Peter/MJ relationship, satisfying conclusion to Harry) it really could be one of the best. But it literally comes down to the landing. If it falters in anyway, I fear it’s going to drop into being a forgettable run with a few high points.

    High points -
    Sins Rising. 850 was fabulous.
    Low points -
    Whatever the hell that 2099 story was trying to be.
    High points: Hunted ( especially Gibbon) Norman saving MJ and separating Peter from Spider-Man. Low points: Damsel In Distress, 2099 and Kingpin. Doom was a tremendous missed opportunity, so was not using Kingsley when he used everyone else. I am going for now with a “C” If he “sticks the landing” and OMD goes away a “B” if he teases and does nothing a grade of “D” (especially after Strange and Mephisto panel).

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