Movie Rumbles: Who's Most Powerful?

[green_garnish]

Think of the latest movie incarnations only (for instance, Cavill Superman rather than Reeve Superman) what's the order of power?

My picks:

Hulk: He took the power of the Infinity Stones and survived.

Superman: ridiculous as it sounds, he snapped a Kryptonian neck on Earth. But he could not withstand the potential of Hulk.

Captain Marvel: despite MCU insistence, she has yet to show she is more powerful than Hulk, despite standing up to Thanos when Hulk was defeated by him. Hulk was more powerful than the stones, and she wasn't.

What's your pick and why?

[Guy1]

Didn't Hulk get his arm royally effed up by the stones? How is that being more powerful than them?

[green_garnish]

Didn't Hulk get his arm royally effed up by the stones? How is that being more powerful than them?

As mentioned, he survived. I'll add he took less damage from the stones than Thanos.

[Guy1]

As mentioned, he survived. I'll add he took less damage from the stones than Thanos.

Did he? Thanos was able to snap twice with them and survived even if it was in a weakened state. Hulk being gamma powered also played a factor.

If he was more powerful than the stones, his arm wouldn't have been messed up. Surviving them is impressive but he's not invulnerable.


At any rate, this rumble is between Carol and Clark. Hulk isn't fast enough to keep up with them.

[big_adventure]

Hulk is chaff to Carol.

Hulk never took an attack from any of the stones. He managed a snap, that screwed him up royally, despite the stones being explicitly a sort of radiation that is beneficial to him. The same snap in the other sense (Hulk brought back, Thanos deleted) did literally nothing to Thanos. No damage at all. The use that damaged him was the one destroying the stones.

Clark is faster than Carol by a significant amount, but I don't think that he can actually hurt her. Her no-selling Thanos' headbutt is just massively beyond anything Cavill Clark has shown, so he likely just can't hurt her at all. So it will probably take a crazy long time but she'll win, based on what we've seen. She's just massively too durable, and she's definitely strong enough to snap his neck once she eventually gets her hands on him.

[green_garnish]

Hulk is chaff to Carol.

Hulk never took an attack from any of the stones. He managed a snap, that screwed him up royally, despite the stones being explicitly a sort of radiation that is beneficial to him. The same snap in the other sense (Hulk brought back, Thanos deleted) did literally nothing to Thanos. No damage at all.

The original snap all but disabled the entire left side of Thanos'body.

[Slade1]

Hulk is chaff to Carol.

Hulk never took an attack from any of the stones. He managed a snap, that screwed him up royally, despite the stones being explicitly a sort of radiation that is beneficial to him. The same snap in the other sense (Hulk brought back, Thanos deleted) did literally nothing to Thanos. No damage at all. The use that damaged him was the one destroying the stones.

Clark is faster than Carol by a significant amount, but I don't think that he can actually hurt her. Her no-selling Thanos' headbutt is just massively beyond anything Cavill Clark has shown, so he likely just can't hurt her at all. So it will probably take a crazy long time but she'll win, based on what we've seen. She's just massively too durable, and she's definitely strong enough to snap his neck once she eventually gets her hands on him.

Completely disagree on Superman vs Carol. But I don't think neither can win. He's not strong enough to significantly hurt her but Carol isn't strong enough to significantly hurt Clark due to his durability and the fact he heals really fast. He also doesn't need to sleep, eat or even breath and doesn't really get tired because he's constantly being charged by the sun.

[Cody]

Hulk is chaff to Carol.

Hulk never took an attack from any of the stones. He managed a snap, that screwed him up royally, despite the stones being explicitly a sort of radiation that is beneficial to him. The same snap in the other sense (Hulk brought back, Thanos deleted) did literally nothing to Thanos. No damage at all. The use that damaged him was the one destroying the stones.

Clark is faster than Carol by a significant amount, but I don't think that he can actually hurt her. Her no-selling Thanos' headbutt is just massively beyond anything Cavill Clark has shown, so he likely just can't hurt her at all. So it will probably take a crazy long time but she'll win, based on what we've seen. She's just massively too durable, and she's definitely strong enough to snap his neck once she eventually gets her hands on him.

Id say him going "not impressed" as he amusingly no sold Wolf's axe is an indication of a level of durability not far off of Carols.

His strength casually pinballed Wolf who treated the rest of the cast as garbage. All in all, i see that as comparable to what Carol did with Thanos. Meaning I see Carol and Clark as having roughly comparable strength and durability, but since Clark has a massive speed edge over her that she will be screwed.

[Stigmazilla]

Think of the latest movie incarnations only (for instance, Cavill Superman rather than Reeve Superman) what's the order of power?

My picks:

Hulk: He took the power of the Infinity Stones and survived.

Superman: ridiculous as it sounds, he snapped a Kryptonian neck on Earth. But he could not withstand the potential of Hulk.

Captain Marvel: despite MCU insistence, she has yet to show she is more powerful than Hulk, despite standing up to Thanos when Hulk was defeated by him. Hulk was more powerful than the stones, and she wasn't.

What's your pick and why?

Legendary Godzilla should be a step above every one mentioned above.

[Cleric of Hell’s Brigade]

Carol’s not putting Clark down. He’s significantly faster and too tough. Carol’s not exactly punching with the force of a nuke last I checked.

[green_garnish]

Carol’s not putting Clark down. He’s significantly faster and too tough. Carol’s not exactly punching with the force of a nuke last I checked.

See, I don't get this argument. Marvel carried a ship home from light years away in a few hours. Several other instances of galactic travel relatively instantly. How is that not as fast as Superman?

Also, last I checked she was punching with the force of a nuke and beyond, but that's just me doubting a nuke could have taken out Thanos' ship.

[Powerboy]

See, I don't get this argument. Marvel carried a ship home from light years away in a few hours. Several other instances of galactic travel relatively instantly. How is that not as fast as Superman?

Also, last I checked she was punching with the force of a nuke and beyond, but that's just me doubting a nuke could have taken out Thanos' ship.

That's a good point. Although flight speed is not overall reaction and combat speed, she might be able to ram him. The problem is it's flight speed versus combat speed. She doesn't show super combat speed. So it's questionable.

We really have no way of knowing how devastating a hit from SW's axe was. Clearly, based on S v B, Superman is not invulnerable to a ground zero nuke. So we get into a discussion of whether Carol's energy blasts are that powerful.

Cavill Superman versus Captain Marvel is a very complex debate that can be argued many ways based on things that people interpret very differently.

[Cleric of Hell’s Brigade]

That's a good point. Although flight speed is not overall reaction and combat speed, she might be able to ram him. The problem is it's flight speed versus combat speed. She doesn't show super combat speed. So it's questionable.

We really have no way of knowing how devastating a hit from SW's axe was. Clearly, based on S v B, Superman is not invulnerable to a ground zero nuke. So we get into a discussion of whether Carol's energy blasts are that powerful.

Cavill Superman versus Captain Marvel is a very complex debate that can be argued many ways based on things that people interpret very differently.

That’s true, though Clark was weakened from Kryptonite at the time. Still, the him vs Carol fight is very complex and close.

[Cody]

See, I don't get this argument. Marvel carried a ship home from light years away in a few hours. Several other instances of galactic travel relatively instantly. How is that not as fast as Superman?

Because that's flying travel speed, through space at that, it has nothing to do with reaction speed.

Also, last I checked she was punching with the force of a nuke and beyond, but that's just me doubting a nuke could have taken out Thanos' ship.

There is absolutely zero indication she has this level of power.

[green_garnish]

[Because that's flying travel speed, through space at that, it has nothing to do with reaction speed.[/QUOTE]

So your point boils down to reflexes? OK, I can live with that. That's been sideman shtick of decades. But I think there's aa distingction to be Made between reflexes and actual speed.


QUOTE=Cody;5597758] There is absolutely zero indication she has this level of power.[/QUOTE]

If only it wasn't for Endgame, of course, but as I said that is a mostly personal feeling that every nuke on Earth wouldn't have damaged that ship. There's no canonical reference that I know of, but Earth standing up to Thanos technology seems remote.