How Spider-Man went from a story about one character to a “team franchise”

[SecretWarrior]

I think Peter doing the minimum in terms of mentoring is a good way to differentiate from a Batman/Robin dynamic, since it allows Miles to figure things out on his own, but allows the reader to draw comparisons between the two. The two are busy with their own lives, so I can't see them going on regular patrols together, but I can see Miles asking Peter for something like recommended reading on how to adjust the mechanics of his webshooter or how to weatherproof his costume or if he knows someone in an organization he's investigating. Dick and Jason no longer need to do much with Batman at all, but they have well-established dynamics with him and some contrasting characteristics.

ITSV showed how to handle fights--multiple simultaneous threats who have teamed up Sinister 6 style.

[CosmiComic]

I think the problem with Peter and Miles is just the fact that Spider-Man is inherently an independent character who learns on his own terms and gets by without a hard, concrete, mentor.

Like ITSV had Peter doing the bare minimum of mentoring Miles before Miles came into his own and sent Peter off to his world, or the games where Miles gets maybe one or two scenes shown as Peter's protege before he gets a full game where he's already Spider-Man.

I also don't think creators have figured out how to do convincing fights with more than one Spider-Person. Because what's the point of Peter if Miles could just Venom Blast everybody?

Maybe some of the enemies should be resistant to Venom blast?

[Frontier]

I think Peter doing the minimum in terms of mentoring is a good way to differentiate from a Batman/Robin dynamic, since it allows Miles to figure things out on his own, but allows the reader to draw comparisons between the two. The two are busy with their own lives, so I can't see them going on regular patrols together, but I can see Miles asking Peter for something like recommended reading on how to adjust the mechanics of his webshooter or how to weatherproof his costume or if he knows someone in an organization he's investigating. Dick and Jason no longer need to do much with Batman at all, but they have well-established dynamics with him and some contrasting characteristics.

ITSV showed how to handle fights--multiple simultaneous threats who have teamed up Sinister 6 style.

Well, that's basically how it's handled in the comics right now. It's less replicable in media where, unless it's a movie, they're expected to appear together more.

Like how the Marvel's Spider-Man cartoon had Peter and Miles as crime-fighting partners but the writers so often forgot Miles existed so Peter could just do stuff on his own.

Maybe some of the enemies should be resistant to Venom blast?

Anything that downplays the Venom Blast .

[CosmiComic]

I like the Venom blast, I just don't think it needs to be a KO

[Spiderfan001]

I like the Venom blast, I just don't think it needs to be a KO

Yup.It's boring.

Mega Venom blast should be the KO.

[CosmiComic]

I like Miles power set. But I always wondered why it's called a venom blast

[PCN24454]

Was there any justification for undoing all of the progress in Peter's life?

Ehh, Peter's life was ruined when they lost their house and had to move into the tower.

[Kaitou D. Kid]

I think Peter doing the minimum in terms of mentoring is a good way to differentiate from a Batman/Robin dynamic, since it allows Miles to figure things out on his own, but allows the reader to draw comparisons between the two. The two are busy with their own lives, so I can't see them going on regular patrols together, but I can see Miles asking Peter for something like recommended reading on how to adjust the mechanics of his webshooter or how to weatherproof his costume or if he knows someone in an organization he's investigating. Dick and Jason no longer need to do much with Batman at all, but they have well-established dynamics with him and some contrasting characteristics.

I also think what immediately would make Peter more of a unique and arguably even better mentor than others is that he lets his teenage protégé use the same name as him. It's not Batman and Robin, or Flash and Kid Flash, it's Spider-Man and Spider-Man. Not that that hasn't been done before (Clint Barton and Kate Bishop share the name Hawkeye, after all) but it's not done as often and it's almost never done with a high-profile superhero. Even Captain Marvel only gave Kamala Khan approval to use her old name Miss Marvel and not the Captain Marvel status.

[Spiderfan001]

I also think what immediately would make Peter more of a unique and arguably even better mentor than others is that he lets his teenage protégé use the same name as him. It's not Batman and Robin, or Flash and Kid Flash, it's Spider-Man and Spider-Man. Not that that hasn't been done before (Clint Barton and Kate Bishop share the name Hawkeye, after all) but it's not done as often and it's almost never done with a high-profile superhero. Even Captain Marvel only gave Kamala Khan approval to use her old name Miss Marvel and not the Captain Marvel status.

See.That was a great moment they had in Spider-men because they were in different universes.
He was upholding the legacy.Now all of that is gone.

[Metro]

I also think what immediately would make Peter more of a unique and arguably even better mentor than others is that he lets his teenage protégé use the same name as him. It's not Batman and Robin, or Flash and Kid Flash, it's Spider-Man and Spider-Man. Not that that hasn't been done before (Clint Barton and Kate Bishop share the name Hawkeye, after all) but it's not done as often and it's almost never done with a high-profile superhero. Even Captain Marvel only gave Kamala Khan approval to use her old name Miss Marvel and not the Captain Marvel status.

It's strange you make it seem as if it's supposed to be a status or arrogance thing with heroes and not basic logic at play to differentiate the two because people should not be calling themselves the same thing at the same time unless they intentionally want to make things confusing.

[Spiderfan001]

It's strange you make it seem as if it's supposed to be a status or arrogance thing with heroes and not basic logic at play to differentiate the two because people should not be calling themselves the same thing at the same time unless they intentionally want to make things confusing.

Yup.
It's confusing both in-universe and for readers.
And miles hasn't earned it at all specially since they retconned all that happened to him in 1610.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

It's strange you make it seem as if it's supposed to be a status or arrogance thing with heroes and not basic logic at play...

Because it's not logic at all. Fixating on rigid patterning is closer to what we'd call obsessive-compulsion.

...to differentiate the two because people should not be calling themselves the same thing at the same time unless they intentionally want to make things confusing.

-- Intentionally confusing your enemies is actually not a bad idea, since nobody can know which Spider-Man they are dealing with at any given time.

-- Green Lanterns call each other Green Lantern and nobody confused Jordan with Stewart and Gardener so this isn't like some new unknown thing in comics.

The concept of people having the same name is a phenomenon in real life and the go-around isn't that one person gets to arbitrarily change his name.

[Spiderfan001]

Because it's not logic at all. Fixating on rigid patterning is closer to what we'd call obsessive-compulsion.



-- Intentionally confusing your enemies is actually not a bad idea, since nobody can know which Spider-Man they are dealing with at any given time.

-- Green Lanterns call each other Green Lantern and nobody confused Jordan with Stewart and Gardener so this isn't like some new unknown thing in comics.

The concept of people having the same name is a phenomenon in real life and the go-around isn't that one person gets to arbitrarily change his name.

Green lantern is a thing they are called because it is a title.
Spider-man was created by Peter parker and has done the most for it by a gigantic margin.

[Metro]

Because it's not logic at all. Fixating on rigid patterning is closer to what we'd call obsessive-compulsion.



-- Intentionally confusing your enemies is actually not a bad idea, since nobody can know which Spider-Man they are dealing with at any given time.

-- Green Lanterns call each other Green Lantern and nobody confused Jordan with Stewart and Gardener so this isn't like some new unknown thing in comics.

The concept of people having the same name is a phenomenon in real life and the go-around isn't that one person gets to arbitrarily change his name.

No it's basic logic, it's why parents with multiple children don't give them all the same name, you're trying call it OCD but no it just makes sense.
Then you're trying Green Lantern as a comparison and it's way off, because Green Lantern is a title in an organization, it's not anywhere near the same as Spider-Man a name Peter made for himself, and another hole in your logic is the fact Green Lanterns don't just call each other Green Lantern they call each other by their names if you see Hal Jordan and Guy Gardener together in a book they aren't calling each other "Green Lantern" their teammates won't be saying it, they're going to be saying "Hal" and "Guy", which isn't option for Peter and Miles since their identities are supposed to be secret.
And there's a vast difference between two people having the same first name and two using the same codename, especially when said codename was used by one person for decades, and it was unilaterally associated with that person and someone else used it simply because they're too uncreative to make name for themselves

[CosmiComic]

Ehh, Peter's life was ruined when they lost their house and had to move into the tower.

I guess, but least that wasn't just rewinding time to some idealized version of him