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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    The entire Justice League (5 people) tries to fight Steppenwolf and loses. Steppenwolf headbutts Superman and he doesn't even feel a thing and wipes his ass with Stepoenwolf easily. You really have a crappy take bro.
    that's power not ability, basically with the power of superman, you or I could do the same. This superman only depends on his powers, every time the power has not been enough, he has ended up making a fool of himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaVi View Post
    that's power not ability, basically with the power of superman, you or I could do the same. This superman only depends on his powers, every time the power has not been enough, he has ended up making a fool of himself.
    Cavill's Superman has been portrayed as the least experienced and also the most challenged. That's why he's had to struggle so hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchboy View Post
    Cavill's Superman has been portrayed as the least experienced and also the most challenged. That's why he's had to struggle so hard.
    even worse, superman is no longer at the level of ww or batman, he is his junior, surely in jl2 he calls them sensei

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberstrike View Post
    IF WB and DC gets rid Cavil and Synder for good then I might inclined to watch more of their movies.


    I want cavill as Hyperion or Sentry, if it is a success (it is from Marvel, so success is assured) it would be very funny to see the faces of warner / dc.

    Unless he's playing a villain that gets killed then NO. I can't stand Henry Cavil unless he's playing a villain who gets killed then I won't watch anything he's in.
    I want cavill as Hyperion or Sentry, if it is a success (it is from Marvel, so success is assured) it would be very funny to see the faces of warner / dc.
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    Sounds cool to me. Cavill Superman sucks and was only ever used to prop up other characters, so at least now he’s being used to prop up other Superman characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaVi View Post
    ww 100 years as a heroine = simple scratches.
    Batman 30 years as a hero = simple scratches.
    superman 2 or 3 years as a hero = die, half dead 2 times.

    the superman of the cinema is useless ****, he is the most pathetic thing that has walked the earth.
    Haha wow, I laugh because I've been in the Wonder Woman board and they'll argue up and down how Wonder Woman got the short end of the stick not performing "feats of strength" like Superman to come to someone who feels that Superman is getting screwed worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Sounds cool to me. Cavill Superman sucks and was only ever used to prop up other characters, so at least now he’s being used to prop up other Superman characters.
    That said, this. Think about it, when you're fighting Superman, you're fighting the best. I'd be one thing if HARLEY were the one to put Superman down for a bit (which I'm sure they'd do given the chance) but if Superman has trouble with one of his own villains, (where some of the least dangerous of his should still be out of a good chunk of other heroes league) I have no problems with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaVi View Post
    Superman being injured by one of his great villains, not by a villain they do not know even at home, without forgetting that this superman spends half his life as a half-dead hero, it is impossible to take this superman seriously, he is completely useless. I hope it is said once and for all that they have fired cavill, because he does not deserve to make a character like this.
    This is being lifted directly from the comics by one of Superman's biggest creators. Regardless of how one feels about it, Byrne's run is a major run in the character's history, and this is a villain he created for Superman comics. This one really isn't worth the energy of making a stink over it.

    DCEU Superman's execution overall sucked, but this really isn't a big insult. They also arguably overdid it with him being so much more powerful than the rest of the League in either cut of JL that we can't really say they downplay his abilities all the time in the DCEU. It doesn't make up for his dead status or where the arc was planned to go, but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    This is being lifted directly from the comics by one of Superman's biggest creators. Regardless of how one feels about it, Byrne's run is a major run in the character's history, and this is a villain he created for Superman comics. This one really isn't worth the energy of making a stink over it.

    DCEU Superman's execution overall sucked, but this really isn't a big insult. They also arguably overdid it with him being so much more powerful than the rest of the League in either cut of JL that we can't really say they downplay his abilities all the time in the DCEU. It doesn't make up for his dead status or where the arc was planned to go, but still.
    JL ww and batman are protagonists and leaders of the JL, but apparently the one who receives the best treatment is superman, a simple extra.
    If for being in the comics you have to accept it, I suppose that if they make a Nazi superman who is also a porn actor, you would also have to accept it.
    For many John Byrne is one of the best superman writers, but for others he is the cause of the destruction of the superverse, he is the creator of the superfarmer and the most boring superverse of the 80 years that superman has. finally, if I remember correctly, the director came out to make fun of the near death of superman, the day of superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaVi View Post
    ww 100 years as a heroine = simple scratches.
    Batman 30 years as a hero = simple scratches.
    superman 2 or 3 years as a hero = die, half dead 2 times.

    the superman of the cinema is useless ****, he is the most pathetic thing that has walked the earth.
    Quote Originally Posted by NaVi View Post
    JL ww and batman are protagonists and leaders of the JL, but apparently the one who receives the best treatment is superman, a simple extra.
    If for being in the comics you have to accept it, I suppose that if they make a Nazi superman who is also a porn actor, you would also have to accept it.
    For many John Byrne is one of the best superman writers, but for others he is the cause of the destruction of the superverse, he is the creator of the superfarmer and the most boring superverse of the 80 years that superman has. finally, if I remember correctly, the director came out to make fun of the near death of superman, the day of superman.
    Dude, it's just comics and a comic book movie. It's not that serious. You don't like Cavil, you don't like Snyder, you don't like Byrne. I wonder who you actually like?

    You got your wish. There is no more Cavilman. You can rock out to Hoechlin Supes on CW, while you await JJ's black Superman.

    Take Batfleck's advice:
    Last edited by Doctor Know; 06-24-2021 at 04:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Know View Post
    Dude, it's just comics and a comic book movie. It's not that serious. You don't like Cavil, you don't like Snyder, you don't like Byrne. I wonder who you actually like?

    You got your wish. There is no more Cavilman. You can rock out to Hoechlin Supes on CW, while you await JJ's black Superman.

    Take Batfleck's advice:
    1: they are just comics, but you are here too, follow your own advice.
    2: I like cavill, that's why I want him to stop being superman, he deserves something better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaVi View Post
    1: they are just comics, but you are here too, follow your own advice.
    You first, mate.

    Difference between the two of us is, I don’t get animated and feel the need to hyperbolically exaggerate the feats and performance of a fictional character in media on an Internet forum. I’m here to indulge my passion with like minded fans. Enjoying the ambience and the community vibe.


    Quote Originally Posted by NaVi View Post

    2: I like cavill, that's why I want him to stop being superman, he deserves something better.
    He can stop being Superman after he lays the hurt on Brainiac, Darkseid and Black Adam. Give the people what they want to see!
    Last edited by Doctor Know; 06-24-2021 at 03:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Know View Post
    Dude, it's just comics and a comic book movie. It's not that serious. You don't like Cavil, you don't like Snyder, you don't like Byrne. I wonder who you actually like?
    In fairness, there are many better options to pull from than Byrne that people can like.

    I generally agree with that poster that we need to wash the stink of Snyder and Cavill away (though the latter mostly just has the misfortune of being the face of the era), but James Gunn having a throw away line referencing a Superman event that came directly from Bloodsport's comic appearance isn't a hill worth dying on.

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    So people are upset that the movie is being comic accurate?!?



    If Supes is used to bullets just bouncing off of him his whole life, it's not surprising that he would be caught off guard by a kryptonite bullet.

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