Is X-Men dangerously playing "Gods" ?

[Uncanny X-Man]

Hickman/Magneto basically addressed this in House of X issue 1 didn't they?

[Doom'nGloom]

Some of them may be playing god but collectively they are not. And as Moira's previous lives shown they are definitely not gods.

[zinderel]

Some of them may be playing god but collectively they are not. And as Moira's previous lives shown they are definitely not gods.

Alternately, they are EXACTLY like gods: born of man, possessed of miraculous powers, deeply flawed and as prone to emotional outbursts as any human, inevitably destroyed by their creators...

[PeterParked]

Ever since they create an island of Krakoa for the mutantkinds, it will be safe they finally have their own land of livings away from the city and the earthkinds. However when Planet Size X-Men come around on the Gala, they seem to do the impossible thing including transforming planet Mars into a new planet call "Arrako". A living planet where arakko otherworlders inhabitat their place. It make me wonder did they ever cross the line or gone too far. Even most of the diplomats and the galantic coucils can view the X-Men are no longer a society but a "Rogue nation". It also show how far they become as even though the "mutant status" will pretty enough to bring more heat between humankinds and Avengers relationship with the X-Men.

Are USA and/or Elon Musk dangerously playing god with their project of colonising Mars and making it habitable? : ) Why nobody is incensed about the same thing happening in real life? Not even other real life nations said a word against it, but if it happens in a science-fiction tale is playing gods? Please.

[andreikes]

Playing gods?

They ARE gods. When will you people underatand this?

Magneto: ''pray for me''

[yogaflame]

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Kneel, and pray for mercy!

[Hizashi]

Certainly some of them are, but terraforming a planet isn't a factor in that. Maybe naming that planet the solar systems capitol?

And can we stop with the lumping all of humanity together as if they hate mutants in a monolith? Not just fans, but Marvel themselves.

[Knives]

Normally the process of developing a nation would take years but this is comics so it's normal for readers to be surprised or scared but unfortunately we don't have years to follow this kind of evolution.

If humans weren't so arrogant and divided they would have conquered Mars long ago.It's funny because if it were a country ruled by humans doing the exact same thing no one would complain. And if they had the power and technology, they would have done it without thinking twice about the consequences.

The problem is that when some look at Krakoa they think it's a story where heroes create a nation. Governing a nation has nothing to do with heroism.


Let's ignore the fact that every minute humans have been trying to figure out a way to destroy krakoa and the mutants since the first day they announced the creation of the island.

Krakoa has many problems it is true but it is no different from any other nation that acts and does what is necessary to protect its interests and people.

And without her what would be the mutants at that moment? Waiting for another extinction event? Being hunted by killer machines? Begging humans for acceptance? Hey don't worry soon someone is going to burn down that island condemning several lives just for not having his villain wife resurrected.

The only question here is why do mutants need Earth when they can create a nation on a dead planet? Which brings us to the endgame.

[gonnagiveittoya]

Playing gods?

They ARE gods. When will you people underatand this?

Yes, because Magnetos hubris is never wrong and never fucks him and all those around him over.

[Askani's Flame]

Ever since they create an island of Krakoa for the mutantkinds, it will be safe they finally have their own land of livings away from the city and the earthkinds. However when Planet Size X-Men come around on the Gala, they seem to do the impossible thing including transforming planet Mars into a new planet call "Arrako". A living planet where arakko otherworlders inhabitat their place. It make me wonder did they ever cross the line or gone too far. Even most of the diplomats and the galantic coucils can view the X-Men are no longer a society but a "Rogue nation". It also show how far they become as even though the "mutant status" will pretty enough to bring more heat between humankinds and Avengers relationship with the X-Men.

I hate when people use "quotations" on phrases to be intentionally condescending, stoke flames, or to show clear biases. Just get to your point that you have concerns about Mars and what is happening.

I find the "Rogue Nation" sentiment to be hilarious. You have the child of the Fantastic Four at one point being able to create like universes and stuff and somehow by terraforming a planet, Krakoa is going too far. No, what they are really offended by is the fact that the mutant population is no longer sitting back and waiting for human handouts or working on the human's terms and timeline. Krakoa has done more in the last year to liberate and bring power to the mutant population without, in fact, causing massive mayhem for the human population and what do humans do hem and haw that they are being left behind and calling them a Rogue nation simply because they don't have their hands in the pie. It's hilarious. More power to Krakoa. The biggest question is, when the humans held the power, what did they do to bring about massive changes to help provide safety for the mutant population? Hardly anything. In fact, even then the mutant population continuously came to aid them to protect the world that hated them and they still do (King In Black) despite most of the time being left in the cold by the human population. So forget them. As I said, more power to Krakoa.

Human insecurity is the only thing i see being dangerous

Eveything here. Earth is small ass potatoes and the humans don't want mutants in the conversation anyways, so yeah let's expand to space. It's not Mutant's fault that the majority of terrans are behind the times. THe MU is bigger than New York.

All of these things. Humans in the MU are ambivalent to mutants overall. Some are fans. Some want them destroyed. Others are meh. But the overwhelming sentiment has always been they are "others" and we don't want'em. And as others are pointing out, there are literal gods or heroes affiliated with the Avengers and FF who have been doing far more than what just took place yet MUTANTS are the issue. Humanity is always the contrarian when it comes to mutants:

Humanity: Mutants are a problem and need their own space away from us.
Mutants: Ok fine here's an island we'll move to. You wanted us away we're away. Just recognize us and we'll give you life-saving tech.
Humanity: Nope. You think you're better than us now, making your own island away from us? Who told you to do that, hun? And we don't want you're stinking meds.
Mutants: Ok, but you told us to move to our own space.
Humanity: Yeah well we meant off Earth as we don't want you.
Mutants: Ok, well we'll terraform Mars and move some our population there away from you then.
Humanity: You've gone too far now. You can't be trusted and you need to be shown you're not better than us.

And so forth. So yeah, humanity in the MU sucks and will always have a ridiculous jealous/hate factor for mutants but are fine with aliens and Gods doing similar things.

[gonnagiveittoya]

I'm not sure the idea of "Krakoa is no different than any other nation" and "Krakoa is a nation of all powerful gods" are compatible, as much as posters and some issues insist that they are

[rcaguy]

Some of them may be playing god but collectively they are not. And as Moira's previous lives shown they are definitely not gods.

You guys really don't know sarcasm when you see it,do you? Magneto is a very sarcastic person.

He was basically saying "Bow down and pray to the new neon gods you've made"

Sound familiar?

[Grinning Soul]

Gods? I don't know. But I find it hard to call it anything but megalomaniac.

1. Terraforming the planet without consulting any other scientists of any other nation is reckless (what if their maths were wrong? They’d be risking everyone). Without consulting with other political representatives of nations of Earth is the type of behavior that led to wars before. Even if you consider that mutants are so evolved it wouldn’t happen to them, humans aren't. Humans learnt to deal with this sort of issues through diplomacy. Mutants turning their backs to diplomacy with humans send a really strong message, one that isn't of reconciliation, but domination.

2. Renaming the planet implies ownership.

3. Determining where visitors can land proves it is more than simply implying ownership - outside the the borders of Lake Hellas anyone will be subject to Arakki law, in other words, the planet is theirs.

4. Calling the planet the capitol of the system then appointing a regent without any sort of democratic election is... well, dictatorship. It's one thing for Krakoa and Arakko to have their councils/rings. They organise their society in whatever way they want. But once they claim to speak for the Solar System, they need to be represented by the people of the Solar System, otherwise, yes, it is a dictatorship. Just because the ruler didn’t get to power through violent means it doesn't make it any less dictatorial.

Yet, objecting to it makes you unreasonable or as Magneto put "petulant"...

[gonnagiveittoya]

I still think it's a dumb idea for the solution to "we have 20 million battle hungry mutants with nothing to do so theyre starting to lash out at civilians in the human world" and "we need a place for our highly sensitive, politically important space embassy" be the same location

[Metro]

Literally everything they're doing will blow up in their faces and screw them over by the end.
That is the logical conclusion to all of this