The Perez version of Diana reminds me a lot of the actress Andie Macdowell. As written by Perez, Diana behaves like the ideal Christian girl (though praying to the greek gods instead of the abrahamic god). She is an immensely dignified woman that feels the need to pacify the violence in the world, and is hurt by the savagery of others.
With her things are either evangelically blissfull or really hurtfully violent. She normally reacts to violence with sorrow (both grief and sadness) or supplicating for others to help/ stop. Ocassionally she also feels anger and immediately afterswards feels sadness for what the world forces her to be. Ultimately she is driven by duty and it seems like it's all she thinks about.
What are you talking about? Simone's take on Diana was totally different from Perez and Jiminez in her voice.
As per Greg Rucka, the Rebirth version of Diana is similar to Perez, but in Greg Rucka's first run I don't think he was using much of the Perez incarnation. Her voice wasn't evangelical at all.
And I know people here really don't care about the William Messner-Loebs run, but he's the one that added lots of characterization to Diana post crisis. She loved the thrill of danger (the astronaut story in issue 66), she could be terrifying even to the joker (issue 97), she was a workaholic even while working at taco bell (issue 75 and 76). She was the kind of person that believed there was a lot of dignity in serving people by feeding (again taco bell) and who expected her boss Hoppy to be as demanding of her as of others, regardless of the fact that Diana can fly and lift cars with her bare hands.
In issue 76 Diana feels guilt over wanting revenge on Circe and even lies to herself about how fragile she feels, but then breaks down and re-accepts her vulnerability. His Diana feels lonely while distant from her family (and yet finds lots of new friends throughout the run) and feels guilt at her reliance on money. His Diana is as sassy as Simone's would be a decade later.
Last edited by Alpha; 07-23-2021 at 08:08 AM.
Most of this stuff was either done by Perez or set up by him. About the only thing you can credit him for is her being a danger junkie which is neither inherently interesting nor does it make her complex.
Diana under Perez made mistakes which she learned and grew from. She didn't know everything nor did she pretend to. She could be vulnerable but was never shamed, demonized or belittled for it by the story. She had a variety of emotions. In other words, she was a person not a meme or social media hashtag.
Last edited by Agent Z; 07-23-2021 at 08:02 AM.
Yes she was. The Perez take on Diana did everything out of a sense of duty and all she could feel was bliss, sorrow or anger and shame.
And compare her to the overconfident Simone version with lots of sassy quips, a strong and imposing left hook and kind of judgemental. Of course Simone's Diana could also talk about vulnerability and love and peace, but she wasn't about the duty gods and the amazons placed on her. She was doing things for her own reasons.
Give me examples of Diana doing these things I mentioned about William Messner Loebs in the Perez run. And Diana wasn't an adrenaline junkie in the William Messner-Loebs run. She just enjoyed challenges. But she didn't seek out danger carelessly.
Oh, and the Messner-Loebs version of Diana could be just as beautiful of a soul as during the Perez era. Case in point Wonder Woman 100 and what Diana says to Artemis as she dies in her arms.
Last edited by Alpha; 07-23-2021 at 08:04 AM.
That's true of the Messner-Loebs run as well. But she also had a lot of other qualities and struggles, and interests along with those. My point is that the Messner-loebs run had all the qualities that Perez wrote, plus a whole lot more interesting things to her. And she didn't feel an evangelical shame at how agressive she had to be because she knew it was necessary and that it didn't reduce how much she valued life.