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    Quote Originally Posted by RamaBird View Post
    Hard to take seriously when most X-Men who aren't white males (or Emma) are in books that are cancelled after 6 issues, or just used as backdrops.

    Seems this is them overcompensating for always mainly focusing on white males in the main books.
    The books you are talking about are basically crap tossed out on the market. Of course pretty much nobody wanted them. Especially when they were going for around $5.00 a shot.

    Pretty much the only way these kinds of titles (X-Corp for instance) are going to survive are in a line of reduced-priced comics to see if there is real interest in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
    https://www.cbr.com/x-men-benjamin-p...too-movements/

    There’s something funny about the writer with the whitest and most male centrist title saying that BLM and MeToo influenced the books.
    Not sure why its funny that a white cis male recognizes and tries to improve themselves and the stories they tell by letting BLM and MeToo influence them. I think it shows progress. Racist and sexism being recognized is not something funny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon1440 View Post
    Not sure why its funny that a white cis male recognizes and tries to improve themselves and the stories they tell by letting BLM and MeToo influence them. I think it shows progress. Racist and sexism being recognized is not something funny...
    Except X-Force is the only title that doesn’t feature any people of color in the main cast (Forge and Cecilia are supporting/guest) and Domino is the only woman who has gotten her own arc, and even that hasn’t been touched upon in at least 12 issues. Progress is shown by action, not by empty words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbenito View Post
    I interpreted his comment as his way of saying mutants standing up and saying, "enough!" isn't some superficial short-lived thing, but part of a "larger cultural shift."
    In other words, get used to it.
    This.
    And there's nothing 'funny" or weird or off about it. It's just a writer speaking on behalf of all the current writers with whom he's in regular contact and their books. So he knows what he's talking about.

    And truth to tell...his revelation is nothing new. If some readers couldn't see that influence from day one then, they were clearly too busy predicting the Doom and fall of this Cult of Supremacists nation and era to look at the big picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    This.
    And there's nothing 'funny" or weird or off about it. It's just a writer speaking on behalf of all the current writers with whom he's in regular contact and their books. So he knows what he's talking about.

    And truth to tell...his revelation is nothing new. If some readers couldn't see that influence from day one then, they were clearly too busy predicting the Doom and fall of this Cult of Supremacists nation and era to look at the big picture.
    Nothing last forever. Yeah mutants aren’t going to go back to being hated and feared and most likely will be accepted by the general populace as people and no longer face extinction level events and threats of genocide. Though Krakoa ain’t staying around with how it was built upon.
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    Yes. Change is inevitable.
    And we knew from the earlies that Krakoa would eventually evolve into something other than what it started out as.

    It's not that they're going to be fully accepted by everyone...They're clearly not. There are still factions that will continue to hate and fear them (we need those bigoted, hate-filled villains dammit!) but general opinion and sentiment are improving.

    The biggest difference in this era is the mutant heroes being proactive rather than reactive to and within the world around them. They're openly making their presence and existence known and felt...which will always rub some the wrong way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    Yes. Change is inevitable.
    And we knew from the earlies that Krakoa would eventually evolve into something other than what it started out as.

    It's not that they're going to be fully accepted by everyone...They're clearly not. There are still factions that will continue to hate and fear them (we need those bigoted, hate-filled villains dammit!) but general opinion and sentiment are improving.

    The biggest difference in this era is the mutant heroes being proactive rather than reactive to and within the world around them. They're openly making their presence and existence known and felt...which will always rub some the wrong way.
    Which is so strange to me. This is probably the most narratively rich the X-Men have been since the Morrison era and people want to end it prematurely just to go back to the same stories they've been telling for decades. There's still years of mileage to get out of the Krakoa landscape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    Yes. Change is inevitable.
    And we knew from the earlies that Krakoa would eventually evolve into something other than what it started out as.

    It's not that they're going to be fully accepted by everyone...They're clearly not. There are still factions that will continue to hate and fear them (we need those bigoted, hate-filled villains dammit!) but general opinion and sentiment are improving.

    The biggest difference in this era is the mutant heroes being proactive rather than reactive to and within the world around them. They're openly making their presence and existence known and felt...which will always rub some the wrong way.
    Technically, even if they don’t know it, they are still being reactive since all this is happening due to the information Charles and Erik have from Moira’s past lives. Though being proactive in other areas by giving assistance in other countries by out spending evil governments and corporations, as well as sending aid. Though in trying to be superior they have made mistakes that could have easily been avoided.
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    That's the X-Men for you.
    Without those mistakes things might not be as interesting as they are and the complaints from the fandom would be even more tedious and eye-roll worthy.
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    I just wanna see how hard Charles, Erik, Moira, and Sinister land on their ass that’s all I really ask for. Let everyone else land on their feet, those four could eternally rest in the bowls of Krakoa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loke13 View Post
    Which is so strange to me. This is probably the most narratively rich the X-Men have been since the Morrison era and people want to end it prematurely just to go back to the same stories they've been telling for decades. There's still years of mileage to get out of the Krakoa landscape.
    Exactatiously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loke13 View Post
    Which is so strange to me. This is probably the most narratively rich the X-Men have been since the Morrison era and people want to end it prematurely just to go back to the same stories they've been telling for decades. There's still years of mileage to get out of the Krakoa landscape.
    Do people want it to end or simply see how it ends?

    HOX/POX set up such a compelling house of cards that it's inevitable that people wanna see how it falls.

    No kingdom can last forever, I mean this is why we are obsessed with armegeddon narratives so much so that they're written into nearly all creation myths.

    With creation there must be destruction.

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    Is there more X-Men stuff to be revealed? Or was that it? (I usually wait for the overall synopsis and bullet point breakdown rather than follow minute by minute)
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    That’s it. There was nothing revealed in the panel. Just more of the same X-office round-robbin chatting about the books: favorite moments, who they voted for in the X-men election, etc.
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    Oh. Okies. That was...meh.
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