Is the Marvel Age Of Movies Done?

**Frobisher** · 07-26-2021, 08:14 AM

Must remember to not read posts in these threads with tea in my mouth, haha. It's like a competition to outdo the last outrageously clueless statement, like how each successive Fast & Furious movie has to have less relation to reality than the last.

**Kirby101** · 07-26-2021, 08:17 AM

A montage of teen age girls being indoctrinated and abused with a song about teen age disenfranchisement. How can that possibly be seen as appropriate?

Black Widow was not just a "spy film". In fact the focus was more on the family and their history than a pure espionage thriller like Winter Soldier.

**Castle** · 07-26-2021, 08:39 AM

I may be coming to the conclusion that some may think Nirvana were on the level of Chuck Berry, Beatles, Rolling Stones or Little Richards with rock music.lol. That is just so not the case. Nirvana's music back then appealed more to teen angst and mostly the 90s kids rebellion phase all hyped up by the classic MTV era. However, I am sure if Kurt Cobain had lived, he will have grown from that kind of music to more mature intellectual substance rock music like U2 and Def Leppard.

Originally Posted by Kirby101

A montage of teen age girls being indoctrinated and abused with a song about teen age disenfranchisement. How can that possibly be seen as appropriate?

Black Widow was not just a "spy film". In fact the focus was more on the family and their history than a pure espionage thriller like Winter Soldier.

No not really because I said, it is done as a montage, you can easily not even guess what is really going on. Also how come this is not the highlight of the film that is talked about. instead we are left with another MCU formula movie with lots of action and quips and big cgi 3rd act. the highlight of xmen 1 even after 21 years is that Nazi scene, because that was actually a major scene (not a montage mixed with angst music) and a big plot point that went on to drive the entire story of the film.

You know you can make the case that GOTG 1 is just as heavy when starlord's mum dies but again, this is not the highlight of the movie. the jokes, quiping and dancing off is the highlight because Marvel still has to keep a particular tone.

You know Black Panther also had some kind of Montage where slavery was briefly shown. However this is not a direct equivalent to HBO Watchmen and there is a reason for that, HBO can handle more harder gritter scenes and moments for a long period of time and show them at their most raw than a MCU film.

Black Widow was not just a "spy film". In fact the focus was more on the family and their history than a pure espionage thriller like Winter Soldier.

Some here are calling it a spy film. Also Winter Solider is not an espionage movie anymore than Ant Man is heist film. Although Winter Solider is perhaps the most mature film marvel has done, which is not a high standard outside the marvel studio bubble where you have to take into account other comic films from WB, New line Cinema or Fox. Ben Affleck's Argo is what you call an actual espionage thriller movie.

**Username taken** · 07-26-2021, 08:51 AM

I may be coming to the conclusion that some may think Nirvana were on the level of Chuck Berry, Beatles, Rolling Stones or Little Richard in terms of rock music.lol. That is just so not the case. Nirvana's music back then appealed more to teen angst and mostly the 90s kids rebellion phase. I am sure if Kurt Cobain had lived, he will have grown from that kind of music to more mature intellectuals rock music like U2 and Def Leppard.

What???!

Nirvana is arguably the single biggest influence on modern rock. Seriously, rock pretty much changed..forever after Nirvana (and Pearl Jam) dragged grunge into the mainstream.

Nevermind is in the Library of Congress for being culturally significant. It's often cited as one of the greatest albums ever...of any genre. In modern times, I can't think of a more influential work and I'm not even exaggerating. I'm old enough to remember how the music landscape change right in front of us when Nevermind was released, it was insane.

The only argument against them is they had a very limited discography but their impact on modern music is colossal and it certainly far,far,far more than Def Leppard.

**80sbaby** · 07-26-2021, 08:53 AM

"Teen angst" is NOT the same as "teeny bopper," Castle.

And you seriously don't see how a song about rebellion (as you admit it is) fits with a movie about enslavement?

**Noodle** · 07-26-2021, 09:03 AM