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    https://www.cbr.com/batgirl-endanger...equal-pay-psa/

    For starters, Robin and Batgirl are not technically employees of Batman. They are a team of *****vigilantes*****, meaning everyone in the Bat Family are volunteers, with their gadgets, costumes and equipment funded by Batman; however, no one, including the Dark Knight, are making a profit from this line of work. It also seems off to imply that Batman, who's a crusader for justice, would disregard the Equal Pay Act of 1963. While his *****vigilante***** work isn't technically legal, it's unlikely he'd also be ignoring laws in regard to the well-being of his "employees."

    The writer ought to have checked Legend#410. While the Green Hornet certainly operated as a vigilante/fugitive, in the 1966 iteration, as he had on radio, Adam West and Burt Ward's duo did not.

    https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-410/

    Batman Heroes: Batman featured the fallacious Miller assertion as to deputizing. He did not say it during the documentary that you mentioned in your article.

    This featurette can be found on the 2-Disc Special Edition DVD of Batman (1989), released in 2005.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncRMkNgscG4

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    Frank Miller, in an interview with Roberta Pearson published in Amazing Heroes#189 circa 1991, alluded to the badge and deputized status, so if he incurred amnesia subsequently, he should perhaps document that to claim ignorance for what he said in that documentary. The Many Lives of the Batman actually published the interview first.

    https://www.amazon.com/Many-Lives-Ba.../dp/0851702767

    The badge or a replacement also appeared in Brave and the Bold#102 and received a mention in #141.
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    https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-275/

    In an article circa Wizard#30, writer Len Kaminski indicated he had considered indicating that, after Stark lost control of his first company, as Stane International, the company had helped build Sentinels. He decided not to pursue the notion. Possibly he may have alluded to this in Comics Scene#43 or perhaps #41 also.

    In Comics Scene Yearbook (1994), I recall Stuart Gordon indicating he thought of adapting Iron Man.
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    https://www.cbr.com/batman-wayne-enterprises-debut/

    https://therealbatmanchronologyproje...s-1-10/year-9/

    An earlier mention of Wayne Enterprises occurs in Detective Comics #396. The tale seems an homage to Warner Bros./Seven Arts.

    Batman busts smalltimer Sharf and his two henchmen (aka “The Lucky Three”), though they all wind up walking free. A few days later, Bruce meets with the studio executives of Seven-Star Pics, a major Hollywood production company. Bruce approves a Wayne Enterprises merger (i.e. buyout) of Seven-Star Pics.
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    https://www.cbr.com/when-we-first-me...sioner-gordon/

    https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Detective_Comics_Vol_1_387

    Batman and Robin leave to investigate while Gordon has his back turned.

    This occurs around 1969, in a retelling of a retelling of the Shadow novel Partners of Peril.
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    Perhaps earlier example:

    https://pdsh.fandom.com/wiki/ZL

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    Inertron's name seems an homage to Anthony/Buck Rogers.

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    https://www.cbr.com/joker-comics-cod...ngoing-series/

    In 1975, the Joker got his own ongoing series, making him the first supervillain to have his own solo ongoing series (Doctor Doom had been the lead feature in Astonishing Tales briefly)...

    Pedantry perhaps, but perhaps the unhelpfully named Yellow Claw merits mention? Also, what of the Frankenstein's Monster via Dick Briefer's series and/or Tomb of Dracula?
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    supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/avengers_262.shtml

    According to the comments, Two-in-One #74 a note in a letters page indicated that the two had wed.

    The note in the lettercol in MTIO #74 describes them as "Diane and Walt (Stingray) Newell" which makes it sound like they were already married.

    Posted by: fnord12 | February 18, 2018 5:13 PM

    They were married in a note in the letters column?!? Sometimes major developments in supporting characters' lives happen off panel but this is ridiculous!

    Posted by: Michael | February 18, 2018 7:03 PM
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    The Blue Beetle had a newspaper strip. This should replace the REH based strip, as REH never wrote for comic books.

    cbr.com/see-you-in-the-funnies-comic-books-that-became-newspaper-strips/
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    Perhaps the Night Raven series first used the word?
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    Perhaps Tharok?
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    What about the Old West/Wild West heroes?

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    https://www.cbr.com/captain-america-...ze-each-other/

    http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron..._253-254.shtml

    A previous writer already attended to at least why one half of the duo did not recognize the other.

    Captain America tells Spitfire that when he was first revived in Avengers #4 he had gaps in his memory, which is why he didn't recognize the Sub-Mariner. Cap got his memory fully restored in Captain America #247.
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    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/marve...2/4000-127461/

    https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-509/

    The jaywalkers urban legend seems to derive from the cover of Year-In-Review '92. Check the cover blurb. Perhaps Fred Hembeck in his 1989 special did it earlier?

    This property seems to derive from Mack Bolan and the Shadow, as mentioned in a legend.
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    If I recall correctly, Adam West in his autobiography asserted that Bob Kane told him that the TV show saved the title from cancellation. He co-wrote that tome with Jeff Rovin.
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    https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-410/

    Batman Heroes: Batman featured the fallacious Miller assertion as to deputizing. He did not say it during the documentary mentioned in the CBR article. This featurette can be found on the 2-Disc Special Edition DVD of Batman (1989), released in 2005.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncRMkNgscG4

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    Frank Miller, in an interview with Roberta Pearson published in Amazing Heroes#189 circa 1991, alluded to the badge and deputized status, so if he incurred amnesia subsequently, he should perhaps document that to claim ignorance for what he said in that documentary. The Many Lives of the Batman actually published the interview first.

    https://www.amazon.com/Many-Lives-Ba.../dp/0851702767

    This reminds me of an item I found on Caveboard on Yuku message boards, in a note on an introduction to a Green Hornet anthology by Martin Grams*:

    http://thecaveboard.yuku.com/sreply/...GEBOOK07102012

    http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron..._305-306.shtml

    I find it intriguing that, in fact, by the early 1940's most of the prominent indigenous comic book heroes stood as deputized or associated with the authorities. (Wonder Woman working with G-2 perhaps or the U.S. military, Captain America obviously did.) In contrast, many of the prominent masked adventurers of prose and radio thrillers such as the Green Hornet (who crafted the cover story of operating as a thief for profit/racketeer), the Shadow, Zorro and the Spider acted as outlaws, proscribed by the authorities. Max Allan Collins pointed out in Amazing Heroes#119 that they adopted alter egos since the cops would have arrested them on the spot (and in Zorro's case, the Spanish army would have possibly executed him).

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/artic...gainst_lawyer/

    http://forums.superherohype.com/show...s#post21952033

    * "In context, since Grams discusses the Adam West show preceding the 1966 Green Hornet series, I will not object to "before him" [as the Green Hornet debuted on radio in 1936, long prior to the debut of Batman in Detective Comics#27 in 1939]. However, since he specifically refers to the Adam West show in this paragraph, I will have to civilly note that he made a mistake".

    Received it-with a gentle reaction to the introduction; unhelpfully, Mr. Martin Grams has a bit of a mistake in his introduction, a mistake easily prevented had he reviewed one of the episodes of the 1966 Batman series in which the Green Hornet guest-appeared.

    From Grams' introduction:

    "The Green Hornet, like Batman before him, was another masked vigilante mistaken by newspaper columnists". In context, since Grams discusses the Adam West show preceding the 1966 Green Hornet series, I will not object to "before him". However, since he specifically refers to the Adam West show in this paragraph, I will have to civilly note that he made a mistake.

    “During the conference [in the 1966 Adam West film] Commissioner Gordon states that Batman and Robin are fully deputised agents of the law [when someone asks if they operate as vigilantes]. Batman was deputised in the comics by Commissioner Gordon, way back in ‘The People vs. the Batman’ (Batman #7, November 1941). Throughout the remainder of the Pre-Crisis era [before 1985-1986] he was operating legally in collaboration with the GCPD”. Adam West himself reiterates his status as a deputized agent of the law in an episode guest-starring the Green Hornet, "Batman's Satisfaction". (Nice bit by the way, that Britt Reid mocks Batman's outfit. I wonder if the scene cut away from him then criticizing the boy sidekick in pixie shoes, leggings, etc.) "The fact of the matter is the first time Gordon lighted off the Bat-Signal (which does not work well with the idea of an urban legend), Batman and Robin became agents of the government". The Adam West TV show had them attending functions such as attending ceremonies to name ships. The first episode had him warmly greated by patrons at a discotheque (which as I recalled resembles a scene in the antecedent comic book tale) and he then dances with one of them.

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    Contingently suggestion for an article; perhaps the Tigress served as the first recurring foe, rather than the Ultra-Humanite.
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    https://www.cbr.com/silver-surfer-ga...-service-time/

    http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron...rfer_5-6.shtml

    https://www.chronologyproject.com/ph...nturies#p46487

    In SS3 6, the Silver Surfer thinks to himself "In the CENTURIES after I left her (Shalla Bal), to serve as herald to Galactus

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    https://www.cbr.com/comic-character-glowing-eye-first/

    Did Tharok ever have a glowing optical receptor?

    https://www.cbr.com/superman-when-ma...-made-costume/

    George Lowther may have established this item in his prose novel.

    https://www.cbr.com/first-unmarried-...n-sharing-bed/

    "Famously in the late 1960s, Jim Steranko also ran afoul of the Comics Code when it came to the romance between Nick Fury and the Contessa (*****not superheroes*****, but it is still interesting)".

    I have to ruminate on whether "Normal Adventure Hero" protagonists may have Life Model Decoys (L.M.D.s), advanced jetpacks, flying automobiles, invisible automobiles which can toggle amongst colors, and myriad other examples of advanced technology.

    https://mercurie.blogspot.com/2021/1...77596361948462

    http://www.hahnlibrary.net/comics/awards/alley67.php

    The Alley Awards featured some unanticipated categories, with unanticipated winners.

    Best Normal Adventure Hero

    Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Marvel) (26) *

    Best Normal Adventure Group

    Challengers of the Unknown (DC) (25) *

    The Challengers of the Unknown perhaps also raise perhaps such concerns. A Sable letters page in #19 had a complaint about Sable using a jetpack in #14, so the metric/threshold of acceptable technology seems unclear.

    Jeff Rovin did include the Challengers of the Unknown in his reference tome Adventure Heroes. He had earlier produced a reference tome, The Encyclopedia of Superheroes, Facts on File (New York, NY), 1985.

    Helpful Interjections on Taxonomy: Mike Benton produced a guide called The Illustrated History of Crime Comics. He did not provide an entry for MOKF and/or G.I. Joe [or any S.H.I.E.L.D. series]. He did cover series based on The Man from the UNCLE. S.H.I.E.L.D. serves as an obvious homage to UNCLE

    Jeff Rovin provided entries for UNCLE agents, including April Dancer, in Adventure Heroes.

    https://whowatchesthewatchers.boardh...opic.php?id=86

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marv...101048#p101048

    https://www.comicboards.com/php/show...&layout=thread

    https://www.comicboards.com/php/show...&layout=thread

    The reference to Mike Benton occurred at the reproduced hyperlink, which lacked mention of Benton omitting all the S.H.I.E.L.D. series; however, Benton did indeed omit those series.
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    Quick follow-up to mention of Benton: He did not log Modesty Blaise reprints produced for the North American market for his guide, or Remo Williams adaptations, despite logging sundry espionage series in his guide to crime comic books.

    https://www.cbr.com/shang-chi-sister...rse-fu-manchu/

    "Master of Kung Fu, took over the numbering of Marvel Special Edition and Fah Lo Suee made her comic book debut in Master of Kung Fu #26 in 1974 (by Doug Moench, Keith Pollard and Sal Trapani)..."

    She had appeared in foreign comic books specifically an adaptation of The Island of Fu Manchu.

    Helpfully available online, perhaps amongst sundry further hyperlinks, at:

    https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=81938

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    https://comicsarcheology.com/index.p...onder-woman-2/

    Despite the cliché, Superman changes clothes inside a phone booth very rarely. But here’s Wonder Woman doing [it].

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    Detective Comics #482 perhaps first featured routinely rhyming Etrigan

    http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron...sPunisher2.jpg

    https://www.supermegamonkey.net/chro...es_12-14.shtml

    The possible first reference to the jaywalkers legend.

    I found an article on an earlier gun control centered tale; could this gun control themed tale have perhaps elicited a decision to retire firearm brandishing vigilantes?

    https://www.cbr.com/spider-man-gun-c...argument-1982/

    A subsequent issue, #77, arriving approximately a half year afterwards, featured letters page reactions to the Second Amendment/gun control themes in #71, including correspondence from Barbara Lautman of Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI), an organization which transitioned to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

    https://www.bradyunited.org/history

    https://www.facebook.com/barbara.lautman.9

    https://www.c-span.org/person/?barbaralautman

    Checking issues of Topps' short-lived Zorro series, Don McGregor, the writer, mentions the complications that affected his subsequent two-part arc regarding firearms in the adjectiveless series, described/reviewed at the earliest produced hyperlink above. I may have had faint memories of the title of the arc; McGregor's memoirs prompted me to inquire further.

    Does anyone recall if McGregor's two-part firearm themed tale elicited responses in the letters page of following issues? I would anticipate responses to have received publication within a few months of the McGregor issues. If you find examples of reactions to the McGregor tale, please inform me if either Second Amendment proponents and/or stricter gun control supporters replied, and if they had joined the NRA or Handgun Control, Inc., or other organizations calibrated to these disparate groups, this merism/spectrum of the situation.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/spide...-1/4000-36284/

    I will not indicate whether I strongly support the NRA, and/or that I hold the opinion that pederastic franchises have attacked firearms to help sell toys, as toy stores started to discourage toys that resemble authentic firearms circa 1994, and franchises such as the Shadow and/or the Spider that feature gun-toting adventurers merit instauration to thwart those gun-hating pedophiles shilling toys. Nor will I indicate whether or not I despise the NRA as a group of homophobes who want more powerful guns to restore the Fugitive Slave Law and undo the 13th-15th amendment.

    Info on discouragement of toy guns:

    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...6/639/2406702/

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...465-story.html

    Therefore, simply indicate which issues had reactions to the McGregor two-parter in the letters page, then proceed to indicate reactions to those letters.

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    https://www.comicboards.com/php/show...&layout=thread

    http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron...an_27-28.shtml on Don McGregor's firearm themed tale.

    http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron...lar_s_15.shtml

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/spide...-1/4000-36284/

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    https://www.cbr.com/most-profitable-...anchises-ever/

    "Star Wars is the most commercially successful non-superhero cinematic franchise ever"

    https://whowatchesthewatchers.boardh...p?pid=148#p148

    https://blackgate.com/2014/01/31/spo...fy-as-fantasy/

    For The Encyclopedia of Superheroes by Jeff Rovin (1985), where he covered the more prominent indigenous to comic book heroes, as well as some properties that started in prose or film, some intriguing choices occurred; Luke Skywalker, Steve Austin, Superman, the Martian Manhunter, the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, etc.

    [H]e does have paranormal telekinetic powers.

    https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Luke_Skywalker?so=search

    Check the tags on this entry.

    in: Muppet Show Guest Stars, Superheroes

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    https://www.cbr.com/indie-comic-supe...ow-invincible/

    "Much like Batman, he [Green Hornet] was a wealthy business magnate by day and a secretive vigilante by night".

    Early on during the 1940's, the so-called Dynamic Duo transitioned to gregarious public figures.

    https://goldenagebat.blogspot.com/20...ober-1942.html

    [In] the policemen vs. firemen charity baseball game.....Batman and Robin are playing in as honorary policemen [in their alter egos, not their normal identities]

    "The overlap even extended to both being orphans, and dealing with organized crime as well as colorful villains".

    Not on the radio show, where his father, Dan Reid, survived to circa 1947, perhaps further. Also, the radio show mostly only, perhaps always, featured mundane foes.

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    https://www.cbr.com/batman-comics-dark-gritty/

    "Like with many heroes, Batman received a campy, brighter makeover in the Silver Age".

    Refer to an earlier post; this transition occurred earlier.

    "Like all the Golden Age DC heroes, this Batman moved to Earth-2, where he attempted to slip into retirement, later being pulled out. Here, he met a grim demise when Steppenwolf[.]"

    Obvious error here. When Jensen got out of prison, he swore vengeance against Wayne and acquired great power from the sorcerer Frederic Vaux.

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    https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-gadge...orld-versions/

    Refers to Dick Tracy, a syndicated strip in contrast to a comics magazine.

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