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Ethnically diverse Amazons make no sense, but a flying lady with a magic lasso does?
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The issue and this is NOT just Wonder Woman but DC (and Marvel too) that inclusivity has to be consistent.
And the books that do it can't just be Wonder Woman or Static or Batwoman or Nubia.
THIS and a lot of those guys act like that to get clicks for youtube money.Bigots are defined by refusal to learn, so we're not gonna waste time to teach
Those guys ONLY look at covers and go off.
Author of the Instant New York Times bestselling novel, The Prophets, from G.P. Putnman's Sons.
Even in Greek Mythology, the Amazons were the 'other'. A group of people from outside traditional greek society.
The RL people who inspired the Amazons, also known as the Sycthians were believed to be of Iranian stock. Various descriptions of them show that they were racially diverse. Some were lighter, others were darker.
From Wonder Woman 750 (which I'm sure is out of continuity but now reads like a test run for Young Diana):
Though it's slightly ambiguous as to whether Nubia is referring to her mortal life or the subjugation by Heracles. The dialogue could be read either way.
I always thought the subtext of the Goddesses choosing women who were victims of male violence to become Amazons was because ones who suffered the most from war and violence would be the best ones to ensure a society 'beyond war' and most reluctant to engage in warfare while still being able to defend itself if the need arises. Which would mean they would have to remember their pasts.
I'm drawing a blank of whether the Amazons remembered their past in the Perez run. .
It's a mistake to think of the Amazons of Themyscira as a purely Greek society. After all, the name "Diana" is Roman, so their culture includes elements from outside Greece. It's likely that the Amazons came from all parts of Man's World around the Mediterranean, so that would include northern Africa.
Author of the Instant New York Times bestselling novel, The Prophets, from G.P. Putnman's Sons.
They don't have any intention to listening to what we have either even while demanding we give their bs consideration.
I could deal with somebody who clueless but open to listening and learning. I have on desire to engage with someone who has already made up their minds and demand that you dedicate your time and mental space to listening to their bs.
I feel like between the fact that the Amazons in myth were always described as a vague foreign "other" separate from Greek culture, the Gods in the myths were described as creating the entire race of man, and the Well of Souls is reincarnating women slain by men from all around the world and not just Greece, some racially diverse Amazons has more than enough precedent and thought put into it. We can also add on to the idea of the Amazons liberating slaves from other regions that are brought to Greece or women who hear of their society and travel there from elsewhere to join them.
I can't understand why anyone would be bothered by this besides the obvious. The Wonder Woman IP has played fast and loose with another culture's mythology that it appropriated since 1941. compared to some of the other sweeping changes it has made, some non-white Amazons are a total non-issue.
Heh, Phil Jimenez actually brought up in an interview recently he always found "interesting" that when it comes to WW and Greek Myth people insist it should be "accurate" to the original myths (ignoring how those myths contradict themselves) but on the other hand you don't see many upset over how Marvel's Thor barely resembles what we know about Norse mythology or when people deviate from Egyptian, Aztec, Maya, Hindu myths whenever those pop up.
Wonder Woman's IP has gotta be accurate to Greek mythology! (But ignore the fact that the main characters name isn't even Greek. )
Not to mention in the shared DC universe, their version of Greek mythology is constructed to fit into the DC universe to begin with. It's not going to be accurate no matter which way you splice it, so I've never seen why it was that big a deal.
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