Firestarter vs Loki

[MichaelC]

Charlene "Charlie" McGee("Firestarter") vs Loki(MCU)

[Powerboy]

Charlene "Charlie" McGee("Firestarter") vs Loki(MCU)

While we don't specifically have any Loki feats versus fire, he's survived getting stomped by the Hulk and lightning from Thor and energy blasts from Iron-Man. She's a glass cannon with the durability of a normal child. I think this is pretty one-sided.

[Beadle]

Yeah, this is pretty much a massive stomp.

[Cleric of Hell’s Brigade]

Ehh………

Maybe not.

IIRC, Charlie had like bullet time reflexes didn’t she? Like liquefied bullets mid-air or some such?

Hmm…….

https://youtu.be/_PtgfCokVXE

Ehh, no it seems more like a force field effect. But still.

[Cleric of Hell’s Brigade]

I stand corrected.

https://youtu.be/VsdeqOdkdTY

She stops the bullet mid air and explodes it I think.

[Powerboy]

I stand corrected.

https://youtu.be/VsdeqOdkdTY

She stops the bullet mid air and explodes it I think.

I've only seen the movie once, when it first came out. I literally have no memory of that scene or even that Martin Sheen and George C. Scott were in the movie.

But she clearly had to know ahead of time that an attack was coming and took a couple of seconds to "power up" and stop a bullet she already knew was coming.

Meanwhile, Loki can immediately turn invisible at the bell, a hundred feet away, and use illusions.

I think we all agree. Curbstomp win for Loki.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

While we don't specifically have any Loki feats versus fire, he's survived getting stomped by the Hulk and lightning from Thor and energy blasts from Iron-Man. She's a glass cannon with the durability of a normal child. I think this is pretty one-sided.

The show does a very good job of sandblasting his Avengers feats, specifically, he gets his ass repeatedly beat by regular humans throughout the series. This is of particular note because it's specifically Avengers Loki that's getting **** on.

[big_adventure]

The show does a very good job of sandblasting his Avengers feats, specifically, he gets his ass repeatedly beat by regular humans throughout the series. This is of particular note because it's specifically Avengers Loki that's getting **** on.

Calling them regular humans isn't necessarily correct though. They were regular humans before becoming TVA, but we have literally no idea at all what that does to them. The other aliens (such as on the train where Loki gets drunk) aren't necessarily human either.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Calling them regular humans isn't necessarily correct though. They were regular humans before becoming TVA, but we have literally no idea at all what that does to them. The other aliens (such as on the train where Loki gets drunk) aren't necessarily human either.

This is a nothing statement.

[Captain Morgan]

This is a nothing statement.

I get what he means. It would make sense for a group as powerful as the TVA to enhance their enforcers into super humans. The issue is we don't have evidence of that, which makes Loki having protracted battles with them really hard to justify.

[big_adventure]

This is a nothing statement.

What it means is that there is an explanation for them doing as well as they do against a guy who laughs off the best hits MCU Captain America can deliver, who isn't liquified by getting rag-dolled by an enraged Hulk, who survives shots from his brother, etc.

Yes, we go by feats: we go by high end feats consistent with the presentation. Either we simply have to throw away anything to do with those fights, or we have to throw away a ton of feats from a stack of other movies.

When Flash gets tagged by Deathstroke we don't throw away Flash's speedfeats based on that one horrific showing. Likewise here.