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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeon View Post
    Iron Maiden, you have a Patreon Account or something? I can’t stand the fact that someone like you wastes time and money for a comic like this, without getting paid.
    You can pay for mine if you like. Once conversion and freight fees are factored in this issue cost me $8.95.

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    Zora's characterization is really weird. It feels like her mood changes from page to page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somecrazyaussie View Post
    You can pay for mine if you like. Once conversion and freight fees are factored in this issue cost me $8.95.
    Ahm..On second thought, I meant it in a symbolic way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doom'nGloom View Post
    Zora's characterization is really weird. It feels like her mood changes from page to page.
    „Johnny you are a fool, I never want to see you again“

    „Oh Johnny! Oh Johnny! I love you so“

    „Leave Larveria or face consequences!“

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeon View Post
    Ahm..On second thought, I meant it in a symbolic way.
    Haha... just know that there are others out there who suffered just a bit more for this issue (story and price).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeon View Post
    „Johnny you are a fool, I never want to see you again“

    „Oh Johnny! Oh Johnny! I love you so“

    „Leave Larveria or face consequences!“
    Bruh.. so F*cking accurate

    As for the issue it was a mess.

    I just hope Johnny doesn't get back with any of the girls.Actions need to have consequences, I don't want a I'm sorry can I have you back and the girl saying yes story.

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    Is his former love Nova alive/still powered?

    She might now be the only one for Johnny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Is his former love Nova alive/still powered?

    She might now be the only one for Johnny
    Yeah she turned up alive in Heralds and Fearless Defenders, and appeared as Fantastic Four Family member in that group fight against that Griever.

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    I loved that character back in the day, but like many characters, they just end up unused and pulled out in such a fashion.

    They deserve better than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Here's the question: did she have to get her mask fused to her face like Dreadknight?

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    Unknown, I would assume not since they didn't show it. She just has to wear the mask in public so that Victor doesn't see her face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Is his former love Nova alive/still powered?

    She might now be the only one for Johnny
    Frankie Raye... she really needs a new codename. Nova makes her sound like a member of the Nova Corps, but she was actually created at a time after Richard Rider's original book was cancelled and before he came back when New Warriors started, so she was using a vacant name that now no longer is.
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    I like the idea of Frankie coming back too. The last thing I read where she appeared was that Heralds mini series with the terrible art.

    As for Zora, I don't think she's been harmed. I think even though she really was a huge disappointment to Doom he can't bring himself to harm her. He had a paternal regard for her and it's like he is a father laying down the law to a wayward daughter. But she's unwittingly put an end to to his high regard for her now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Unknown, I would assume not since they didn't show it. She just has to wear the mask in public so that Victor doesn't see her face.
    Frankie Raye... she really needs a new codename. Nova makes her sound like a member of the Nova Corps, but she was actually created at a time after Richard Rider's original book was cancelled and before he came back when New Warriors started, so she was using a vacant name that now no longer is.
    Probably better to do this on the regular FF thread, but I like the idea of throwing around some names
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    Default Nova New Names - Frankie Flames Forever!

    Solar - I know sounds masculine, but I have no problem with that.

    StarBurst, but... candy

    Fiero/Fiera

    Flamer, Flamella

    Okay I even looked for synonyms:

    Supernova (that was a character in Nova comics, right?)

    Orb ???

    so, this isn't working out, maybe I have another idea:

    In the first story, Frankie ended up being another "Human Torch".

    What if the cure for Johnny involves Frankie? Maybe they end up synching or somehow drawing/draining off of each other's powers.
    A part of Johnny's abilities are to absorb other heat sources. Frankie's origin is different, but didn't the original Torch also do this on occasion.

    The only thing more interesting (to me, at least) than this would be

    Bringing in all the other torch-beings. So Toro, Frankie and I don't know the current status quo of Jim Hammond, the original Torch,
    but maybe saving Johnny could involve something with the other Torches,

    and I say that would be a heck of a better story than the weird would be triangle with Zora and Sky, or is it also Lyja (think she will be back, frankly)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    I like the idea of Frankie coming back too. The last thing I read where she appeared was that Heralds mini series with the terrible art.
    Frankie would make sense now as she was related to the Horton who created the first Human Torch. A search for some of the equipment he used to help Johnny could be a link to bringing Frankie back.
    I’ll don the mask and wear the cape
    If I am super, how can I wait?

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