Last edited by luprki; 08-02-2021 at 09:36 PM.
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I'm sure that it and all the other movies they released on disney+ simultaneously to cinema gave them a lot of sign ups. Frankly I'd say that is why they did it. I mean think about it if you do something that cuts into box office receipts and don't get some other return from it why repeat it?. Both Disney and WB have released stuff early to their streaming sites during covid. It has to generate them a return to justify.
The way I see it.
1. Their contracts with talent remunerate based on box office returns heavily with less for streaming etc.
2. The numbers re streaming are COMPLETELY under their control and rarely released (meaning they can cook the books anyway.
3. Sign ups to streaming services generated by a movie wouldn't be a part of any figures even if those figures were open.
End result they pay the talent less get returns that are more hidden and less cut into. Generate a larger market for the rest of their content (Saif market has more monthly subscription fees as well as potential hires of material.
Johanson making this suite if she's successful could very well under mine them undercutting talent on many upcoming projects. She might cost herself work but in doing so protect the future incomes of many of her fellow actors/actresses. In anycase in this day and age there are many ways a celebrity can make money without making films etc. There's no such thing as bad press because any notoriety or fame can generate followers on social media platforms,YouTube, etc. Influencers can make a fortune.
Doesn't matter if she's worth 100 millions or a 100 bucks Disney needs to pay what they owe.
If Disney Plus offered the movie at no extra cost like HBOMax, I think she would have a strong case.
RDJ got a base salary of 10mil for IM3 and a backend deal in all supposedly he made 50 mil. Scarjo got 20mil as a base this movie was never gonna do IM3 business. I doubt her deal was better than RDJ's so how much did she really lose? We'll never know. But it can't be worth all this.
Marvel's Chief counsel did apparently tell her:
So they had told her that if something significant did change with the release they would adjust things accordingly. Which they didn't do. They obviously knew that they should, but when it came down to it they figured they'd risk this kind of ****storm and just hope Johansson would not make a fuss.“We understand that should the plan change, we would need to discuss this with you and come to an understanding as the deal is based on a series of (very large) box office bonuses,”
I, for one, am SHOCKED that Disney appears to actually be the greedy ones in all this.
Have you all ever followed the "Disney Must Pay" stuff going on with movie/TV writers, authors, comic book writers, and some of the smaller studios they absorbed? There's a whole hashtag even #disneymustpay ...
They've been doing this for decades. They acquire properties or change media formats and screw people all the time and never pay them. They have it down to a legal science, if you will. They pay off the notable names and hope we forget the rest.
They still play fast and loose with copyright. Disney still takes stuff from Marvel and never credits the creators (just the notable ones).
I am amazed in this day and age that people still think they're a good company.
I've noticed that some significant (as in non just YouTubers) reviewers are saying they will never review another Disney product again.
I don't see Disney losing this since they've won the other hundreds of similar cases. Settle? Most likely.
They’ve never released the contract to the public, so it is speculation at best. I would be pleasantly surprised if Disney screwed up to the point that ScarJo could win. I just don't expect it given the history.
Last edited by BeastieRunner; 08-03-2021 at 12:52 PM.
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$7 for a soda, $11 for a burger, $30 for a t shirt at the parks and your shocked?I, for one, am SHOCKED that Disney appears to actually be the greedy ones in all this.