ScarJo Files Suit Against Disney

[Gorthon616]

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/s...ie-1235042525/

Looks like she'll be fine without Disney.

Are Wes Anderson movie's big paydays? She is suing for money, not some artistic reason.

[Kieran_Frost]

So happy Olsen stuck up for Scarlett. Olsen clearly has more balls and integrity than the rest of the guys. They play heroes on film, but run away like cowards when it actually comes to being men. *roll eyes*

Are Wes Anderson movie's big paydays? She is suing for money, not some artistic reason.

She's fine for money, the point of Wes Anderson is he's one of the big directors, and she's still getting hired. The point being the more people who see you can work outside of Disney, the less they'll tolerate this bullsh*t.

[Gorthon616]

So happy Olsen stuck up for Scarlett. Olsen clearly has more balls and integrity than the rest of the guys. They play heroes on film, but run away like cowards when it actually comes to being men. *roll eyes*


She's fine for money, the point of Wes Anderson is he's one of the big directors, and she's still getting hired. The point being the more people who see you can work outside of Disney, the less they'll tolerate this bullsh*t.

I don't think that that is the point at all. I think the point is exactly about money and making a lot of it.

And for the record, I think that Disney broke the contract, but based on what she is asking for, I think she is being very unrealistic. And I don't think she'll be able to prove damages to the amount that she is asking for.

[Colossus1980]

I don't think that that is the point at all. I think the point is exactly about money and making a lot of it.

And for the record, I think that Disney broke the contract, but based on what she is asking for, I think she is being very unrealistic. And I don't think she'll be able to prove damages to the amount that she is asking for.

Yeah Disney backstabbed Scarjo but she's got to be realistic in what she's asking for. Lots of people don't want to sit in movie theatres now. There was no way BW was going to hit all the marks in order for her to get her 50M bonus.

[WebLurker]

Yeah Disney backstabbed Scarjo but she's got to be realistic in what she's asking for. Lots of people don't want to sit in movie theatres now. There was no way BW was going to hit all the marks in order for her to get her 50M bonus.

Don't actors usually sue or negotiate contract disputes more on the principle of the matter (e.g. if a company screws me over and I don't say anything, then the odds of other companies doing the same later go up)?

I'm not an actor or anything, but I could see her going for the full money just to maximize the odds that any hypothetical settlement are closer to the original amount than not.

[Gorthon616]

Don't actors usually sue or negotiate contract disputes more on the principle of the matter (e.g. if a company screws me over and I don't say anything, then the odds of other companies doing the same later go up)?

I'm not an actor or anything, but I could see her going for the full money just to maximize the odds that any hypothetical settlement are closer to the original amount than not.

I don't know why they would sue on principle more than anyone else, but I'm sure she is asking for 50M as part of a settlement/judgement strategy like you are saying.

[Kieran_Frost]

I don't think that that is the point at all. I think the point is exactly about money and making a lot of it.

That's 100% the point. Her sueing Disney is not hindering others hiring her, point and case: Wes Anderson. Which only will fuel her more. If Disney can make her undesirable she might back off, but they've failed that. Giving her little reason to backdown. It's a win for Scarlett.

And for the record, I think that Disney broke the contract, but based on what she is asking for, I think she is being very unrealistic. And I don't think she'll be able to prove damages to the amount that she is asking for.

Yeah Disney backstabbed Scarjo but she's got to be realistic in what she's asking for. Lots of people don't want to sit in movie theatres now. There was no way BW was going to hit all the marks in order for her to get her 50M bonus.

Is the obligation more in her court to prove the film would have made that money, or for Disney to prove it wouldn't? It's very difficult to ever know for certain, because Disney pulled the trigger far too quick. And as the lack of data is their fault... I assume the obligation to categorically prove the negative falls into their court. Which will be very, very hard. Film success is... fickle. Somethings become blockbusters when bad, and some films utter duds when good. It's not a science (trust me, producers would love for it to be a science), so Disney will find it very, very hard to prove it would have failed.

Don't actors usually sue or negotiate contract disputes more on the principle of the matter (e.g. if a company screws me over and I don't say anything, then the odds of other companies doing the same later go up)?

This is 100% about the principle of the matter, 100%. Disney stabbed her in the back, for no reason other than to make a little bit more money to add to their billions. It's shameless greed. And Scarlett is one of the most powerful actresses in Hollywood right now, she's one of the few who has the ability to use her power to tackle the monstrous Goliath that is Disney. Actors with power, who stand by and do nothing... it's upsetting. That's where the whole #MeToo came from, too many, for too long, stood by and did nothing. And the men of the MCU are standing by and doing nothing. Just like with Joss Whedon, it's the non-Caucasian actors and women who have to do the heavy lifting in the battle... while the str8 white actors stand by, heads down, hoping they ride the wave.

Bravo Scarlett. Hopefully soon Disney will trigger America's monopoly laws and have their film empire dismantled piece by piece.

[Gorthon616]

Is the obligation more in her court to prove the film would have made that money, or for Disney to prove it wouldn't? It's very difficult to ever know for certain, because Disney pulled the trigger far too quick. And as the lack of data is their fault... I assume the obligation to categorically prove the negative falls into their court. Which will be very, very hard. Film success is... fickle. Somethings become blockbusters when bad, and some films utter duds when good. It's not a science (trust me, producers would love for it to be a science), so Disney will find it very, very hard to prove it would have failed.

Disney is the defendant, so burden of proof would be on the plaintiff. Breach of contract is probably not hard to prove (some people seem to think there might be some force majeure exception, but I don't really find that persuasive) but as a civil action she has to prove damages, i.e. the money she is suing for is for the money that she has allegedly lost due to Disney's breach. Disney just has to prove that the damages are less than she is asking.

https://www.upcounsel.com/consequenc...ing-a-contract

Remedies for a Breach of Contract
Under the law, once a contract is breached, the guilty party must remedy the breach. The primary solutions are damages, specific performance, or contract cancellation and restitution.

Compensatory damages: The goal with compensatory damages is to make the non-breaching party whole as if the breach never happened.
Punitive damages: Though rare, this happens when the breaching parted acted egregiously. The non-breaching party receives a payment beyond the damaging amount.
Nominal damages: When the non-breaching party did not suffer a monetary loss, the court or the arbitrator may award nominal damages as a token award.
Liquidated damages: There are situations where both parties outline costs in the contract. This is known as liquidated damages. The damage amount must be a reasonable estimate of actual damages.

I mean, there could be punitive damages, but that's mostly at the courts discretion, and I would find it odd in this circumstance. (but it's possible) But what she's likely going to get would be compensatory damages.

[chicago_bastard]

A report from the Wall Street Journal states that the sibling directing duo were in talks with the studio to make a glorious return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe after delivering the one-two punch of “Avengers: Infinity War” and “Avengers: Endgame.” However, their negotiations apparently hit an “impasse” amid the Johansson dispute, which reportedly led the director duo to harbor their own concerns about the unnamed film’s release model and how they’ll be paid. https://theplaylist.net/russo-brothe...suit-20210904/

Looks like this is really going well for Disney.

[CTTT]

A report from the Wall Street Journal states that the sibling directing duo were in talks with the studio to make a glorious return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe after delivering the one-two punch of “Avengers: Infinity War” and “Avengers: Endgame.” However, their negotiations apparently hit an “impasse” amid the Johansson dispute, which reportedly led the director duo to harbor their own concerns about the unnamed film’s release model and how they’ll be paid. https://theplaylist.net/russo-brothe...suit-20210904/

Looks like this is really going well for Disney.

Yeah they worked with ScarJo so it makes sense. Hopefully the ice can thaw on this empasse and they can negotiate a deal

[Gorthon616]

A report from the Wall Street Journal states that the sibling directing duo were in talks with the studio to make a glorious return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe after delivering the one-two punch of “Avengers: Infinity War” and “Avengers: Endgame.” However, their negotiations apparently hit an “impasse” amid the Johansson dispute, which reportedly led the director duo to harbor their own concerns about the unnamed film’s release model and how they’ll be paid. https://theplaylist.net/russo-brothe...suit-20210904/

Looks like this is really going well for Disney.

I mean, the fact that they are interested at all I would take as a positive if I was Disney. They had pretty much said they were done with Marvel and wanted to do their own stuff. So the fact that they are in talks is more of a positive thing since it reflects that they have more of an interested then prior to the report.... So yeah.

[CTTT]

I mean, the fact that they are interested at all I would take as a positive if I was Disney. They had pretty much said they were done with Marvel and wanted to do their own stuff. So the fact that they are in talks is more of a positive thing since it reflects that they have more of an interested then prior to the report.... So yeah.

Well, if you listen to their audio commentaries for the MCU movies they did they mention more than once that they are comic fans.

[Gaastra]

So two big things. The head of the cca went to chapek and asked BEFORE the lawsuit to please lets get this fixed. chapek told him "i'll call you" then never did!

Second looks like scarlett was promised "it's 100% going to theatres only and if they change it you will be called to redue things" and then chapek wouldn't even pick up her calls.

Yikes!



John talks about it here.

[Gaastra]

Part 2.

[Gaastra]

The mess he is doing to the parks.