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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    She was a general in Zoom's army, and I think that still happened (he just wasn't from Earth 2). Other than that and killing Vigilante, Black Siren's been nothing more than a lackey for a stronger male character.
    She bombed Star City's police department and worked with Ricardo Diaz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post
    She bombed Star City's police department and worked with Ricardo Diaz.
    I forget that she bombed the police department. As for Diaz, she was his lackey for a time.

    My thoughts on the finale:

    It's gonna be weird not having this show around anymore. The good in my mind far outweighed the bad, and I'll miss seeing these characters every week.

    It was great to see so many cameos. It was nice that they worked Slade in some way, and it was great seeing Oliver save Moira. That being said, I really want to know how the rest of that season played out now.

    Tommy married Laurel! It is sad that they didn't bring back Earth 1 Laurel (it would have been easy, and given E2 Laurel another reason to travel in time). Guggenheim said they didn't want to undo everything that E2 Laurel had gone through, and I can understand that.... still, there could have been two.

    It was great to see Tommy again, and it was even better that he shaved He still looks like season 1 Tommy without the beard.

    Nice to see the flashbacks again, and to see Season 1 Hood mowing down armed thugs. I get that he spared Byrne, but he did kill like 30 guys there.

    Nice that we got one last fight scene. I'm guessing that was the entire stunt department.

    Roy and Thea get their happy ending! But again, I want to know how things played out that Thea still ended up becoming a vigilante, and presumably the co-leader of a new League.

    Speaking of which- I cannot believe they were actually able to get Katrina Law back for a scene, since she's living and working in Hawaii now. But I'm glad they did- as much as anyone, Nyssa has been an integral part of this show since season 2, even if she only appeared sporadically. And it was nice to see her getting along with Talia.

    Sara is still her beloved. Guess it's a good thing she didn't bring Ava with her.

    Mia got to say goodbye, and got to give some comfort to her younger brother and Mother at the same time.

    Emiko finally gets to be accepted as a Queen. Wonder if Moira know Emiko knew about the bomb on the boat... At least her and Thea FINALLY got to share a scene.

    So Diggle is moving to Metropolis- and FINALLY has the Green Lantern ring! Makes me wonder if maybe he'll move over to the Superman and Lois Lane show. I guess it all depends on WB, and if they would allow a Green Lantern on the CW at the same time they are making a Green Lantern show for HBO. Or if it would even be allowed contractually.

    All of the other cameos were great to see as well, from Anatoli, to Lance, to Ragman, to Moira of course. And Barry and Kara came to say goodbye, which was perfect. I wish Sin could have been there, though.

    Funny thing is, all day I've seen pictures being posted of Maddison McLaughlin with the cast members- all apparently from the past. Because we still don't know what happened to Evelyn.

    And the ending... screw what the haters are saying. Oliver and Felicity essentially got the ending that Superman, Lois, Alexander and Superboy Prime got at the end of Crisis- they get to spend eternity together in a paradise realm. I see people bitching already that Felicity abandoned her children to be with Oliver--- bullshit. I see that argument in the old timeline, where William had just found her again and Mia had been raised as a warrior and probably didn't get the best mother she could have gotten. But this is a new reality. William and Mia were raised together, by Felicity. She got to watch them grow up and become heroes themselves, and when they were ready to stand on their own, she chose to move on. And now she and Oliver can finally rest. That is a perfect ending, IMO.

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    @AnakainFlair - One small problem I agreed with a lot of what you said but a few minor points.

    One episode doesn't wipe away all the crap that has come before it, you say that the ending with Oliver and Felicity is a perfect ending, I call bullshit because they is no such thing as a perfect ending.
    I think they told the story that they wanted to tell but they did leave a hell of a lot of questions much as you went through,
    I haven't watched as it hasn't aired in the uk yet hell I haven't even really watched crisis yet.
    However pretty sure once again all the stuff Felicity did she hasn't to me anyway grown from it, its as if Guggy wants us to forget that she manipulated, lied and stole, I heard that the ending we got was always the ending they were going to give us they didn't even have a backup plan they insisted that EBR had to come back and do it. They were lucky that she could but to me its one last jab that Olicity was meant to be and perfect soul mate who loved each other and its a perfect relationship when to me it was for the majority of its run toxic. Felicity did what she wanted and Oliver had to bend to accommodate but like hell did she ever bend for him. Sorry and I do mean that but I really hate and I do meant hate Olicty and Olicters because of the blinders and truthfully Felicity as a character even after 6 years has potential but needs work and the show has ended. To end on a good note you told your story and I respect that Thank you for the inspiration.
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    What an incredible finale. Is Digg going to be the lead in the new Green Lantern show that is apparently happening or was his ending just a massive tease?

    As for the pilot for the future spin off: I liked it. I really hope William, Zoe and Connor get their memories back though. Will be disappointing to lose the versions we had otherwise.

    I can see them deciding not to do it for Connor because it will too similar to JJ since both timelines had a good one and an evil one. Although on the other hand contrasting their reactions could make good drama.

    Maybe original!Zoe having died will make the new!Zoe unable to gain her memories.

    But there is really no excuse to not do it for William.

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    They've already shown Green Lantern Earth-12, so I wonder why they bothered making it so vague with John's scene? They couldn't even show the ring, just a green glow from ...a box? I feel bad for anyone just watching the show who hasn't been a part of the whole GL fan stuff, because that would have made no sense - they've never said "Green Lantern" or "power ring" on the show (JWS saying "where's you ring" one time is the closest). And that's because it doesn't make sense - that was just fan service because his name was John and the show runners said he was named after "Little John" from Robin Hood. This is getting like the comics, where a story element is introduced by one writer or one book and it's just up to another show to see if they decide to do something with it because this universe is going to continue. Is John going to Metropolis? (presumably where the new Superman show will take place) If he becomes a GL, it's easy to imagine those plans changing, but then what happens with "The Flash" or some other show has some world-threatening event? John's just ... off-world? It's like how they made sure to keep Superman away from stuff on "Supergirl" since it's her show. If the GLC exists in the Earth-Prime universe, wouldn't they have had an impact on stuff on Supergirl or Legends? If the GLC just a pandora's box they don't want to open, we're left with a vague tease about John's future that they can't even confirm, that only exists on people's head-canon.

    Ultimately, it's just a bit odd that after so many years on a show, it went from a fan theory to fan wishes, to a tease to taking over the character, almost derailing his own story and leaving him in a weird unconfirmed limbo kinda fate. Guess we'll see if they ever actually go through with it on another show. (having Dig on "Superman" (or any other show) might have actually been cool, but now you almost can't do it without undoing the GL tease)
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    Quote Originally Posted by j9ac9k View Post
    They've already shown Green Lantern Earth-12, so I wonder why they bothered making it so vague with John's scene? They couldn't even show the ring, just a green glow from ...a box? I feel bad for anyone just watching the show who hasn't been a part of the whole GL fan stuff, because that would have made no sense - they've never said "Green Lantern" or "power ring" on the show (JWS saying "where's you ring" one time is the closest). And that's because it doesn't make sense - that was just fan service because his name was John and the show runners said he was named after "Little John" from Robin Hood. This is getting like the comics, where a story element is introduced by one writer or one book and it's just up to another show to see if they decide to do something with it because this universe is going to continue. Is John going to Metropolis? (presumably where the new Superman show will take place) If he becomes a GL, it's easy to imagine those plans changing, but then what happens with "The Flash" or some other show has some world-threatening event? John's just ... off-world? It's like how they made sure to keep Superman away from stuff on "Supergirl" since it's her show. If the GLC exists in the Earth-Prime universe, wouldn't they have had an impact on stuff on Supergirl or Legends? If the GLC just a pandora's box they don't want to open, we're left with a vague tease about John's future that they can't even confirm, that only exists on people's head-canon.

    Ultimately, it's just a bit odd that after so many years on a show, it went from a fan theory to fan wishes, to a tease to taking over the character, almost derailing his own story and leaving him in a weird unconfirmed limbo kinda fate. Guess we'll see if they ever actually go through with it on another show. (having Dig on "Superman" (or any other show) might have actually been cool, but now you almost can't do it without undoing the GL tease)
    Warner Brothers has always been extremely cagey when it came to showing or mentioning Green Lanterns on the CW shows. It may be because they've supposedly had a new Green Lantern movie in the works for most of the show's run, it could be that contractually, they aren't allowed to mentioned Green Lantern on TV. For the limitations that were put in place, I thought it was great, and I do hope we see the Diggles again on Superman and Lois, or the HBO series.

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