Arrow

[Toreador]

Oliver should've invited the Human Target to join the team.

Team Arrow never seemed to do much in the espionage department. They see a break-in, rush to attack them and do computer sleuthing to track them down when they get away. In a fight he would pretty much do the same job as Diggle.

[Kirby101]

And Diaz, who controls all of Star City with impunity, still mostly hangs out in dank warehouses?

[Enterprise E]

And nearly every single cop but the bare handful that were fired earlier? Show writers must REALLY be trying to burn the show as they exit.

I almost wonder if they plan on destroying Star City and don't want us to feel bad if the city winds up getting destroyed by the Thanatos Guild or some other "ends justify the means" type player. Given how the city is now portrayed and how the good people seem to be leaving/have left the city, would anyone really care if that thermobaric bomb actually went off?

[Immortal Weapon]

It's crazy how guys on Diaz payroll don't even bother hiding their corruption. The bailiff, the judge, the cops.

[The Darknight Detective]

Ollie's trial at least made a bit more sense they Barry's trial did.

A bit more, but that bit is very tiny.

[AnakinFlair]

From the promo pictures for next week, it looks like Diaz is going to launch a full-on attack against ARGUS. At which point my need for logic will override anything else and I'll demand that Federal troops come in to restore a lawful government. Because if Diaz can get away with attacking a covert federal agency, that's just too ri- goddamn-diculous.

Also- where the hell is Agent Watson? How was she not at the trial that she helped to set in motion?

[AnakinFlair]

It's crazy how guys on Diaz payroll don't even bother hiding their corruption. The bailiff, the judge, the cops.

To be fair, why bother hiding when EVERYONE is corrupt?

Or as Jim Gordon once said, "In a town this bent, who's there to rat to?"

[Captain Smith]

Yep, it has gotten really stupid with the Diaz plot. The overt take over a city ploy is so common in the DC based shows nowadays and defies belief. No need to point out why Seal Team 6 or the 101st Airborne isn't killing Diaz and his merry men.

My bet peeve from the episode is the ever popular 'let's keep talking when we should be killing our opponent'. Alternate Laurel - give me a break. If you need to kill someone, kill them. Oops, he had a remote control from Best Buy to shut you down. What a surprise!

Similarly, in the Ollie, Diaz MMA match - just break his neck, Ollie. You used to kill so easily, now you are a putz.

Flash, Ollie, Kara - get some spine, would you? Forget the Bats and Supes don't kill horsepoop. Or writers - do stories that have to avoid such stupidity.

[Immortal Weapon]

Flash, Ollie, Kara - get some spine, would you? Forget the Bats and Supes don't kill horsepoop. Or writers - do stories that have to avoid such stupidity.

Get people on the team that will do it for them. Black Lightning has Gambi to put people 6 feet under when the need arises.

[Anarchist]

Or at least be CONSISTENT about your rule.

Oliver has killed dozens of mooks, even during the current season.

Kara blasted several White Martians into dust.

And Flash, during Season 2, directly caused the death of Atom Smasher.

Those are just on top of my head. Why exactly is killing underlings fair game, but killing the Big Bads totally evil?

[Huntsman Spider]

Or at least be CONSISTENT about your rule.

Oliver has killed dozens of mooks, even during the current season.

Kara blasted several White Martians into dust.

And Flash, during Season 2, directly caused the death of Atom Smasher.

Those are just on top of my head. Why exactly is killing underlings fair game, but killing the Big Bads totally evil?

As I said in the Supergirl thread, it's because the underlings are faceless, nameless mooks that the audience isn't expected to care about, so the heroes, such as they are, aren't expected to give a damn, either. The Big Bad Bosses, on the other hand, have faces, have names, and (presumably) have motivations, so that makes them more "human" to the audience, even if they're the despicable kind of human. As such, our presumed heroes "should" be more reluctant to off them as casually as they do the mooks, because the Big Bad is an "actual person" just like them.

It's unfortunately a matter of importance within the narrative, and mooks are very, very low on that chain, so they can be disposed of and dispensed with easily and without regret. The Big Bad, of course, is too important to the narrative to be easily disposed of, so there "has" to be lots of agonizing over whether or not to kill him (or her), regardless of the atrocities s/he goes on to commit every time the heroes spare him (or her). Yes, it's very hypocritical and perhaps even bordering on sociopathic in a certain respect, but that's how it works in a superhero, or otherwise action-based, narrative. Mooks are just obstacles to the main characters' presumably heroic/noble goals, while the Big Bads are meant to be viewed in parallel with or relation to the main characters themselves, affecting the plot just as the main characters do and thus having too much importance to the narrative for the main characters to just off them like their (again, faceless and nameless) mooks would be.

[Immortal Weapon]

Supergirl killed Parasite by nuking him. He definitely wasn't a faceless mook.

[Frontier]

Get people on the team that will do it for them. Black Lightning has Gambi to put people 6 feet under when the need arises.

Even Kara has Alex to put people down when she likely won't.

[Jackalope89]

Even Kara has Alex to put people down when she likely won't.

Alex hasn't really been doing that much of support lately though, has she?

[Frontier]

Alex hasn't really been doing that much of support lately though, has she?

No, if only because she's been stuck with either romantic drama or dealing with threats she has no chance against (the Worldkillers), but in seasons 1-2 she did put down a lot of people (including Kara's aunt).

She kill a heck of a lot of Nazi's in the crossover .