In the 90's, Flash franchise have grown over the decades from building the roles of Jay Garrick and Max Mercury. The introduction of Bart Allen and finally established the creation of speed force. But the 2010's, DC has undo all the history and legacy of Flash by giving everything for Barry Allen ever since the Flashpoint. Then at DC Rebirth, DC has bought back Wally to the mainstream DC universe. However, he was sidelined as a result of the editor mandate. Now, here we are. Wally West has been established back as the main Flash. Despite have a strong and good reviews of his latest run, the sales prove otherwise which was worrisome because we don't want another Flash book get cancelled due to poor sales.
Because of this, it just show a huge scar of the Flash franchise. What do you think you can fix those broken.
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07-30-2021, 12:11 AM #1Mighty Member
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Flash Franchise: The Most damaged Franchise in the 2010's
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07-30-2021, 01:37 AM #2Three Legged Member
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Not just the Flash franchise unfortunately.
You could argue that The Titans were screwed just as hard, if not harder.
Not to mention the Legion of Superheroes and Justice Society!!"My name is Wally West. I'm the fastest man alive!"
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07-30-2021, 07:54 AM #3Uncanny Member
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You don't think the Green Lantern franchise was hit worse than the Flash?
Originally Posted by LAWtoyoto 432
I like Barry as Flash, so my real complaint was the last part of "The Button" cross-over with Batman where they made it seem like Jay would finally return, but that only lasted for a few panels.
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07-30-2021, 08:28 AM #4Astonishing Member
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GL is nowhere close to The Flash.
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07-30-2021, 08:36 AM #5Uncanny Member
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Thing is, I don't see the Flash franchise as "damaged" unless you were a fervent Wally fan. Originally Posted by Dred
"Fractured" is probably a more useful term, especially as time goes on and any newer Flash-followers have no problems accepting Barry as "The Flash".
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07-30-2021, 08:45 AM #6Astonishing Member
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Yeah Barry was the sales and top draw of the last decade.
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07-30-2021, 09:00 AM #7Astonishing Member
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In the comics, maybe.
But the Flash franchise as such thrived in the 2010's, thanks to the TV show, as well as Flash's debut on the big-screen.
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07-30-2021, 11:21 AM #8Mighty Member
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He was the only Flash character being published for half of the 2010's so yeah...he would have to be the top draw. He was gone for 22 years prior to that...so Barry is far from the be all end all of Flash comics. Originally Posted by D.Z
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07-30-2021, 11:22 AM #9Mighty Member
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I don't think that's entirely true. Prior to the New 52 we could read about Wally, Bart, Jay, Max, Jesse and many other characters. We lost more than Wally. Originally Posted by MajorHoy
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07-30-2021, 07:46 PM #10Astonishing Member
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I mean that and like 15 other characters? Wally wasn't the only one. Originally Posted by MajorHoy
Imagine if a year after GL Rebirth, Kyle, John, and Guy no longer existed. And everything they ever did was also gone.
GL didn't even get rebooted, they got it better than everyone but Batman. Kyle got a little fucked over in the whole ordeal but everything else stuck.Last edited by Dred; 07-30-2021 at 07:48 PM.
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In what terms are we talking? If we're talking purely in fall from stature (compared to the build-up to 2011 when it seemed like Green Lantern was a serious contender to be DC's next major franchise), perhaps, but I don't think the actual franchise itself became merely as much of a mess as the Flash did. Originally Posted by MajorHoy
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07-30-2021, 06:49 PM #12Incredible Member
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Narrator: “Everything was definitely not going to be great”
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07-30-2021, 06:57 PM #13Three Legged Member
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All the stuff they chose to throw away. Originally Posted by Lucas 35
Narrator: “Everything was definitely not going to be great”
Barry doesn't know his gransdon.
We haven't seen him interact with Jay AT ALL.
How would Barry & Max get along?
There was SO much to explore with his return to the DCU and DC chose to ignore it all and go the Barry is the one & only route."My name is Wally West. I'm the fastest man alive!"
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I disagree with the premise, I think the Titans franchise was more damaged during the 2010s and before that. I'd argue that the Titans are the most damaged comic book franchise.
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The Titans franchise says HIIIIIIIIIIII. Originally Posted by LAWtoyoto 432
In Flash's case it was tossing away everyone for Barry. So like with Green Lantern-it was there must only be ONE who everybody must worship. Even if it means alienating every other fan they could find.
How many Titans got killed or butchered in events???
Hotspot was bought back to bash the Titans in Sideways and get killed looking like Trayvon Martin.
How many Titans have still not seen?
DC allowed a trashing or marginalizing how many Titans who held long running (or books that lasted 3 years)? Nightwing, Kyle, Wally, Jaime, Conner, Bart & Tim. 1000 solo issues among those guys.
If Marvel had not buried Gen X, New Mutants, X-Men Academy, Young Avengers, New Warriors and Avenger Academy-they would OWN the teen hero market.
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