Cbs has a fever...and the solution is more kurtzman!

[C_Miller]

I know I'm in the minority (here at least, I don't think I'm actually in the real minority), but I'm a really big fan of the New Star Trek shows. If my credibility needs to be established, I've been a fan of Star Trek all my life, which works out to first run of The Next Generation. I've seen every episode of every series, multiple times in most cases. That said, I don't think they're perfect and a lot of the Kurtzman-isms are a little annoying. I'm pretty neutral on this news, but this is a good indication they've been successful, which I like.

[thwhtGuardian]

I know I'm in the minority (here at least, I don't think I'm actually in the real minority), but I'm a really big fan of the New Star Trek shows. If my credibility needs to be established, I've been a fan of Star Trek all my life, which works out to first run of The Next Generation. I've seen every episode of every series, multiple times in most cases. That said, I don't think they're perfect and a lot of the Kurtzman-isms are a little annoying. I'm pretty neutral on this news, but this is a good indication they've been successful, which I like.

It's very much the other way around, he wouldn't be getting a big pay out if "people who enjoyed the shows" was a minority segment of the viewership.

[Cyke]

What's really funny is that Trek fans are going to watch Trek no matter what. Meanwhile the only non-Trek show this guy did (Clarice) bombed. The Trek show everyone wanted to see (Strange New Worlds) was the one he didn't want to do. He wanted to do a show about Section 31.

LOL @ the idea that millions of people spend hundreds of millions on something they want to hate-watch.

Are we really that cynical of people liking other things?

Enterprise proved that there's a limit to what Trekkies will watch. Avoid those mistakes and you're already in pretty good shape.

[AndrewCrossett]

As a Star Trek fan since the 70s, I lost interest a little ways into Enterprise, and never got it back.

I think I'm just bored with Starfleet and Starfleet-adjacent stuff. I might get back in if they ever do a show about independent operators in this 'verse, along the lines of Firefly or GotG.

[Anthony W]

LOL @ the idea that millions of people spend hundreds of millions on something they want to hate-watch.

Are we really that cynical of people liking other things?

Enterprise proved that there's a limit to what Trekkies will watch. Avoid those mistakes and you're already in pretty good shape.

Bwa-Haha... "It isn't as bad as Enterprise." The funny thing is it used to be "It isn't as bad as Voyager. Pretty soon Discovery and Picard will be competing with eachother. Also, never underestimate the entertainment value one can gain from a good hate watch. Movies like "The Room" are famous for a reason.

[ChrisIII]

^I think Prodigy might be heading in that direction, although it still has hologram Janeway.

[Noodle]

Also, never underestimate the entertainment value one can gain from a good hate watch.

If you're paying money to watch something you hate, you have no one to blame but yourself when they keep making things you hate.

[C_Miller]

It's very much the other way around, he wouldn't be getting a big pay out if "people who enjoyed the shows" was a minority segment of the viewership.

You're completely right. To be honest, I know a ton of Trek fans in my personal life and I don't know a single one that doesn't like Picard or Discovery or both. Really the only hate I encounter is on the internet.

[Immortal Weapon]

It's very much the other way around, he wouldn't be getting a big pay out if "people who enjoyed the shows" was a minority segment of the viewership.

Getting a big payout means he's a good business man. It doesn't necessarily has to do with his projects actually being successful. The WWE is making hand over fist in business deals with Fox and NBC but they are bleeding fans and their popularity is at an all time low.

Not to mention that a bunch of new Trek projects have been announced with talent attached to them and all of them amount to nothing. There doesn't seem to be any interest in greenlighting new projects beyond what's already available.

[Captain Craig]

Oh, look a thread by one of those "I'm a true fan, the new stuff is crap" type posters who doesn't realize his screaming minority voice, no matter how hard he types/screams, is still just a minority.
One not worth the time.
Go cry while you watch Amok Time, unmastered version.

[Pinsir]

This reminds me of the way a certain group of people talk about Kathleen Kennedy. A lot of people often think a piece of media is bad and therefore it failed, but alas, no.

[Derek Metaltron]

Getting a big payout means he's a good business man. It doesn't necessarily has to do with his projects actually being successful. The WWE is making hand over fist in business deals with Fox and NBC but they are bleeding fans and their popularity is at an all time low.

Not to mention that a bunch of new Trek projects have been announced with talent attached to them and all of them amount to nothing. There doesn't seem to be any interest in greenlighting new projects beyond what's already available.

Chances are like Kennedy no one else wants the job of trying to fix Star Trek so they don't have much else choice. If others do enjoy Discovery though that's fine to me, I just got tired of the fact they were gushing about how diverse the bridge crew was but the vast majority of them you had no idea what their names and backstories were.

It's likely the fact that everything post Enterprise has been forced to be done under the alternate Star Trek license because of the original Viacom split and how that still isn't able to be rectified since the re-merger that gives some people reason to say how none of it is canon.

[Anthony W]

One not worth the time.

Glad I was worth your time! If you are going to climb up onto a high horse try not to fall off. We all have opinions. No need to put words in my mouth.

[WebLurker]

Bwa-Haha... "It isn't as bad as Enterprise." The funny thing is it used to be "It isn't as bad as Voyager. Pretty soon Discovery and Picard will be competing with eachother.

And they'll be getting the "they were better than we thought initially" reassessment that stuff almost always gets, in all likelyhood.

[Aahz]

Bwa-Haha... "It isn't as bad as Enterprise." The funny thing is it used to be "It isn't as bad as Voyager. Pretty soon Discovery and Picard will be competing with eachother.

The thing is that (apart from TOS) the first 2 or so seasons of all of the old Star trek Shows were pretty weak.

Even "Enterprise" got actually better in the later seasons, but by than it had probably already lost to many viewers.