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08-01-2021, 12:49 PM #1Astonishing Member
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Cbs has a fever...and the solution is more kurtzman!
"The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest
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08-01-2021, 12:58 PM #2Extraordinary Member
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Must mean the shows he's doing are doing pretty well for CBS then...I'm not sure how anyone could come away from that news with any other conclusion than that.
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08-01-2021, 01:18 PM #3Extraordinary Member
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If Discovery and the rest of current Trek wasn't profitable, CBS wouldn't be doing this, obviously. But I still laugh at the idea that CBS is trying to save face and double down by continually pumping millions into a falling sink hole of a failing investment.
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08-01-2021, 01:40 PM #4BANNED
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This is disappointing news to hear but not surprising.
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08-01-2021, 01:54 PM #5Astonishing Member
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What's really funny is that Trek fans are going to watch Trek no matter what. Meanwhile the only non-Trek show this guy did (Clarice) bombed. The Trek show everyone wanted to see (Strange New Worlds) was the one he didn't want to do. He wanted to do a show about Section 31.
"The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest
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08-01-2021, 03:14 PM #6Extraordinary Member
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Yeah...it's totally all people just hate watching it. No other possibility.
Originally Posted by Anthony W
Wouldn't it be easier just to shrug and think, "Hey, these shows haven't been for me but it looks like a lot of other people must like them." rather than creating an elaborate fantasy?Last edited by thwhtGuardian; 08-01-2021 at 03:38 PM.
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08-02-2021, 09:00 AM #7Extraordinary Member
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LOL @ the idea that millions of people spend hundreds of millions on something they want to hate-watch. Originally Posted by Anthony W
Are we really that cynical of people liking other things?
Enterprise proved that there's a limit to what Trekkies will watch. Avoid those mistakes and you're already in pretty good shape.
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08-02-2021, 06:33 AM #8Astonishing Member
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I'm not sure how people can unironically talk about their favourite film and TV series as "franchises" and "intellectual property" and then still be surprised when it turns out the whole thing is just a way to make new money from old rope. Originally Posted by Anthony W
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08-02-2021, 08:44 AM #9Mighty Member
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I know I'm in the minority (here at least, I don't think I'm actually in the real minority), but I'm a really big fan of the New Star Trek shows. If my credibility needs to be established, I've been a fan of Star Trek all my life, which works out to first run of The Next Generation. I've seen every episode of every series, multiple times in most cases. That said, I don't think they're perfect and a lot of the Kurtzman-isms are a little annoying. I'm pretty neutral on this news, but this is a good indication they've been successful, which I like.
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08-02-2021, 08:58 AM #10Extraordinary Member
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It's very much the other way around, he wouldn't be getting a big pay out if "people who enjoyed the shows" was a minority segment of the viewership. Originally Posted by C_Miller
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08-02-2021, 10:49 AM #11Mighty Member
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You're completely right. To be honest, I know a ton of Trek fans in my personal life and I don't know a single one that doesn't like Picard or Discovery or both. Really the only hate I encounter is on the internet. Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian
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08-02-2021, 11:17 AM #12Put a smile on that face
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Getting a big payout means he's a good business man. It doesn't necessarily has to do with his projects actually being successful. The WWE is making hand over fist in business deals with Fox and NBC but they are bleeding fans and their popularity is at an all time low. Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian
Not to mention that a bunch of new Trek projects have been announced with talent attached to them and all of them amount to nothing. There doesn't seem to be any interest in greenlighting new projects beyond what's already available.
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08-02-2021, 11:50 AM #13Extraordinary Member
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Oh, look a thread by one of those "I'm a true fan, the new stuff is crap" type posters who doesn't realize his screaming minority voice, no matter how hard he types/screams, is still just a minority.
One not worth the time.
Go cry while you watch Amok Time, unmastered version."Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" - Optimus Prime
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08-02-2021, 12:53 PM #14Extraordinary Member
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Chances are like Kennedy no one else wants the job of trying to fix Star Trek so they don't have much else choice. If others do enjoy Discovery though that's fine to me, I just got tired of the fact they were gushing about how diverse the bridge crew was but the vast majority of them you had no idea what their names and backstories were. Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon
It's likely the fact that everything post Enterprise has been forced to be done under the alternate Star Trek license because of the original Viacom split and how that still isn't able to be rectified since the re-merger that gives some people reason to say how none of it is canon.
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