Youve read Infinite Frontier 0, 1 ,2 ?
I dunno if I'll get to replying to everyone in this thread.
Personally I was really happy to have major story arc surrounding wally west, the flash, and found the issues related to roy in the price really touching.
My general statement to everyone in the thread is I feel sorry that people arent having a good time... I read hundreds and hundreds of issues a year and easily 90% of what I read I find really enjoyable page turning material.
Ultimately hopefully you find materials that excite you to read.
When HiC first came out all I could think was how was DC gonna get out of this, how were they going to spin this controversial story. I couldn't be more happy with how they've been playing it and Infinite Frontier 0 and the limited series 1,2 of 6 out so far and IF Secret Files and Bones investigating has been a lot of fun.
I feel past events have been so focused on superman and then batman with metal and death metal that Infinite Frontier shining a spot light on The Flash really is fun for me.
As I have more time I'll try and respond to more of your posts.
This is my single favorite response. Great question.
While I read as a kid from about 1991 to 1998 I never read much.
But in 2016 I became a huge collector.
The only one I actually read from what you listed was Identity Crisis.
Just as far as the art, the way it all unfolds, it was so interesting to me and I'd heard a lot of the negative before I read it so I was braced for disappointment.
Once the end hit and the sorta copout ending was expected I really didn't have any problem with it... certainly I could see why people would be frustrated but... like I said I expected a annoying conclusion so it was more about the journey. And I liked the journey.
Like I said I never read the other books listed.
I would comment that Zero Hour got pegged as bad and it didnt read so well ... it being older and me not having read enough leading up to it probably didnt help. I do have a curiosity to reread it with more context.
Shit I still havent finished Crisis on Infinite Earths... got over half way through. Brilliant brilliant concepts. Horrificly wordy and repetitive writing... I ended up watching YouTube synopsis's etc...
Sort of the reverse of your question I was so incredibly let down by All Star Superman. Will forever be one of my lowest rated dc books... having said that watching the animated movie several months after gave me a new appreciation for a story that was so popular that I hated... the animated movie redeemed the book for me... but I still promptly sold the book and will never read that story again.
I'd be interested in continuing this line of convo...
But I've probably not read much of the hated stories... since I'm a newer reader I do research and likely avoid most of the classically hated stories.
Teen Titans, Volume 5: The Trial of Kid Flash by Scott Lobdell .... this is a hated story that is even some what similar to HiC that totally character assassinates Bart... I wouldn't dare reread this and pretty sure it was totally ignored in any future stories or quickly retconned.
Can't speak for anyone else but I still think it's trash and the only thing that comes to mind whenever 'Heroes In Crisis' is brought up is 'kill it with fire'.
Can you stop doing this in so many of your posts? Look, lots of us have been reading for 20+ years and still continue to. Flexing like this just comes across as flaunting how much disposable income you have and wanting to prove you're a big fan.
You're on these forums and discussing the characters in greater detail. You already have made your commitment to being a fan known by doing so. Flexing about how many trades you read isn't going to make anyone take your opinion more or less seriously.
No amount of reading current material (and I've read Infinite Frontier 0-3) is going to change that HiC is a bad story. You liked it. That's genuinely great and I'm glad for you, but please stop implying that simply continuing to read mediocre stories trying to fix a bad one is some grand tapestry. It isn't. They're just trying to bilk us out of what money we've got until we don't care and the new generation comes in. Take it from fans who have been reading several decades and have been on this ride several times. It's not new.
Honestly ?
Even as someone who really doesn't care about Wally West at all, who finds the JSA plot in Infinite Frontier utterly boring and uninteresting, depriving us of more Justice Incarnate... I hated and still hate Heroes in Crisis and don't see what plot point it produced which was needed for anything of what was done afterward with Wally.
I just don't understand the point of the story. I know DiDio gets a lot of hate here, but I still think King's done an horrible job and he'd have done an horrible job with that story no matter which characters would have been chosen in my book.
If some peoples like it, it's obviously more power to them, but I personaly can't.
I have been reading comics since 1994 - 1995. I thought I would never again read such a massive character assassination as was Identity Crisis.
And then Heroes in Crisis came along.
And yes, I have read the stories that came afterward, desperately trying to *fix* the mess that was HiC.
A character who was always portayed as unambiguously heroic suddenly becomes an egotistical mass-murderer in the span of one destroyed city? Yeah, it was bad. Poor Hal. I didn't know much of Green Lantern when I was a kid reading that story (poor 7 year old me lol) except for what I saw in Superfriends and instead of finding it cool I thought "Why are they doing this to Green Lantern?"
Never hated it.
This is comics.
Multiple Earths exist.