Magma and Polaris feats that make them Omega candidates

[dirtynun]

While I still question the wisdom of bringing back the concept of Omega mutants at all, maybe there'll be a few vacant categories post-Inferno.

Most likely plus also in COTA there are categories to mutant power based on their function according to cerebro.

[dirtynun]

Don’t forget that Hope can also mimic the powers of dragons.

Unless Shou-Lao the Undying has been a mutant the entire time.

Hope also mimicked Wanda, and while we all want the retcon to be undone, it hasn’t been. So that’s another non-mutant, for the time being.

One of the most powerful non mutants ever... Hope is the omega of power manipulation the pheonix is a pure expression of power her omega abilities after bonding with the pheonix made her the second white pheonix of the crown the highest pheonix level, that is omega! Rouge hasn't done anything to top that.

[sallyblevins]

I LOVE Magma (polaris too) i think shes the most underused of the New mutants. A LOT to explore in this one. I like so much that in the beggining she was considered on genius level like Kitty.
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[Omega_DCD]

This is a very avid way of looking at the two... Brilliant work indeed.

Thank you

[RamaBird]

Polaris would already be Omega if Magneto wasn't around, but as long as Magneto is eternally in his 40's, they will continue ignoring what Polaris is capable of.

So really, what makes a mutant Omega is that they are constantly used well over years and years. For example, I see Synch and Selene as stronger than Rogue, but Selene and Synch are totally underdeveloped and Rogue is super popular and constantly used, so she has "more" feats.

Also, being white and a pet favorite of an insecure white writer definitely helps you become Omega too. So once again we need more change behind the scenes.

[dirtynun]

Polaris would already be Omega if Magneto wasn't around, but as long as Magneto is eternally in his 40's, they will continue ignoring what Polaris is capable of.

So really, what makes a mutant Omega is that they are constantly used well over years and years. For example, I see Synch and Selene as stronger than Rogue, but Selene and Synch are totally underdeveloped and Rogue is super popular and constantly used, so she has "more" feats.

Also, being white and a pet favorite of an insecure white writer definitely helps you become Omega too. So once again we need more change behind the scenes.

Not really you point is refuted by the presence of Mr M Vulcan Jaime Proteus and elixr all of whom are less prominent than Polaris and less used. The simple matter of fact is this Magneto is yh magnetism guy when it comes to magnetism no one can top him. His name literally is the master of magnetism. And has constantly been refered to being one of the most if not the most powerful mutant especially during the early days of the comic run with Charles and storm being the only mutants to demonstrate power on his level. The fact of the matter is that Polaris is unlucky because she is ultimately in the realm of magneto and there he reings supreme.

[Subliminal]

I LOVE Magma (polaris too) i think shes the most underused of the New mutants. A LOT to explore in this one. I like so much that in the beggining she was considered on genius level like Kitty.

Agreed, so much potential. She's intelligent, skilled with her talent and has immense power on a planetary scale (holding that planet together in that battle against Magus). She has finesse to raise and cool the temperature of her constructs and her body. She has a high degree of invulnerability, even coming back to life so long as she is in contact with the Earth. She can some how channel magma into her body to blast it through her hands, and can sense spaces within the Earth to make tunnels, by moving magma around. And she was the only real threat when the New Mutants fought the Beyonder, unleashing a volcano and bringing up huge slabs of granite to crush him. She usually just flies around tossing flames now, but she can do so much more.

[dirtynun]

Agreed, so much potential. She's intelligent, skilled with her talent and has immense power on a planetary scale (holding that planet together in that battle against Magus). She has finesse to raise and cool the temperature of her constructs and her body. She has a high degree of invulnerability, even coming back to life so long as she is in contact with the Earth. She can some how channel magma into her body to blast it through her hands, and can sense spaces within the Earth to make tunnels, by moving magma around. And she was the only real threat when the New Mutants fought the Beyonder, unleashing a volcano and bringing up huge slabs of granite to crush him. She usually just flies around tossing flames now, but she can do so much more.

Oooohhh nice

[salarta]

Not really you point is refuted by the presence of Mr M Vulcan Jaime Proteus and elixr all of whom are less prominent than Polaris and less used. The simple matter of fact is this Magneto is yh magnetism guy when it comes to magnetism no one can top him. His name literally is the master of magnetism. And has constantly been refered to being one of the most if not the most powerful mutant especially during the early days of the comic run with Charles and storm being the only mutants to demonstrate power on his level. The fact of the matter is that Polaris is unlucky because she is ultimately in the realm of magneto and there he reings supreme.

And Polaris is the Mistress of Magnetism.

There's no legitimate reason under the current definition that Lorna and Magneto can't both simultaneously be Omega. Both being Omega wouldn't even hurt Magneto currently being better at it than Lorna. The definition doesn't account for Magneto's decades of experience over Lorna. In the scope of the current definition, you can have a battery that reaches the same voltage that qualifies it for "Omega" quality. One battery, Magneto, currently can last longer and has more applications for its use than the other battery, Polaris. But they're both Omega cause they can both reach the same voltage.

The definition doesn't say "Character who is most well known and most famous for their power." It doesn't say "Character who has received the most respect and use by Marvel in this power set." If Marvel was following their own supposed rules here, Lorna would be Omega. But they refuse to do so, and also can't bring themselves to openly admit their actual criteria is "We like and respect this character so he gets to be Omega, while we don't feel the same way about this other character so she doesn't get to be Omega."

[Stormy]

It states could rival not even a rival. I know this scan and it doesn't indicate Polaris can surpass her father or has greater potential the language used is even uncertain with could foreshadowing rival. When we compare feats it's no contest magneto obliterates lorna she even tells storm that magneto is the biggest dent on the Earth's magnetic field that if everyone one is a tiny ripple in a puddle he is a full blown tidal wave and that he is easy to detect magnetically because of this.

There were other moments too

[Stormy]

And Polaris is the Mistress of Magnetism.

There's no legitimate reason under the current definition that Lorna and Magneto can't both simultaneously be Omega. Both being Omega wouldn't even hurt Magneto currently being better at it than Lorna. The definition doesn't account for Magneto's decades of experience over Lorna. In the scope of the current definition, you can have a battery that reaches the same voltage that qualifies it for "Omega" quality. One battery, Magneto, currently can last longer and has more applications for its use than the other battery, Polaris. But they're both Omega cause they can both reach the same voltage.

The definition doesn't say "Character who is most well known and most famous for their power." It doesn't say "Character who has received the most respect and use by Marvel in this power set." If Marvel was following their own supposed rules here, Lorna would be Omega. But they refuse to do so, and also can't bring themselves to openly admit their actual criteria is "We like and respect this character so he gets to be Omega, while we don't feel the same way about this other character so she doesn't get to be Omega."

I just want to add that both have already been used as opposite poles, so the power level is minimal

[Phoenixx9]

And Polaris is the Mistress of Magnetism.

There's no legitimate reason under the current definition that Lorna and Magneto can't both simultaneously be Omega. Both being Omega wouldn't even hurt Magneto currently being better at it than Lorna. The definition doesn't account for Magneto's decades of experience over Lorna. In the scope of the current definition, you can have a battery that reaches the same voltage that qualifies it for "Omega" quality. One battery, Magneto, currently can last longer and has more applications for its use than the other battery, Polaris. But they're both Omega cause they can both reach the same voltage.

The definition doesn't say "Character who is most well known and most famous for their power." It doesn't say "Character who has received the most respect and use by Marvel in this power set." If Marvel was following their own supposed rules here, Lorna would be Omega. But they refuse to do so, and also can't bring themselves to openly admit their actual criteria is "We like and respect this character so he gets to be Omega, while we don't feel the same way about this other character so she doesn't get to be Omega."

Yes, this is true, in the same way both Jean and quire are Omega TPs. Jean has the experience, skills and depth of ability over quire. But both are Omega because they can reach the same voltage.

[Outburstz]

Do people not understand that a person can have the same powers as someone else and just be weaker?

Trying to make these two Omega level is just silly and pointless

[salarta]

Do people not understand that a person can have the same powers as someone else and just be weaker?

Trying to make these two Omega level is just silly and pointless

Which would be accurate if Marvel’s definition and past comics didn’t translate into meaning Polaris has to be Omega if Magneto is.

There are plenty of ways Marvel could change its definition to justify excluding Lorna if they want it badly enough.

[Outburstz]

Which would be accurate if Marvel’s definition and past comics didn’t translate into meaning Polaris has to be Omega if Magneto is.

There are plenty of ways Marvel could change its definition to justify excluding Lorna if they want it badly enough.

She's weaker than Magneto because she is less popular the end