Where is The Punisher?

**charliehustle415** · 08-06-2021, 09:38 PM

There's a rumor on Bleeding Cool that Punisher is going to be written by Aaron soon.

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/jesu...isher-no-more/

**king of hybrids** · 08-07-2021, 01:39 AM

I feel if Frank was going to have a purposefully ignominious death it should have been during Secret Empire as a cautionary tale about collaborating with Fascists

**hairys** · 08-07-2021, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by InfamousBG

Damn, I hope not. I really love The Punisher. Would love to see a new series with him in it.

Thanks guys for all the info today.

Keep expectations low. The key to this is that Jason Aaron already gave Punisher a hero's death and sendoff in his Punisher Max series years ago (albeit also a gritty and sad death). So it's suspicious to me as to why he would sign up to do the duty again in 616 unless it's because he regrets what he did with Punisher Max and will try to make amends (in his biased mind) with the 616 version.

Originally Posted by ed2962

If so, there's no way he stays dead. Punisher is one of Marvel's solid B-Listers who's popularity goes up and down every so often. Also see Ghost Rider, She-Hulk, Moon Knight, etc...

I agree with this. Once the culture wars fade away or at least Punisher's tenuous association with the culture war fades away, we can just have normal Punisher stories again. I mean, he really just kills rich white people (i.e. the Mafia) most of the time. It's kind of dumb that he gets caught up in all this crap and we have to wait a decade or whatever it ends up being.

Also, Garth Ennis seems to write a Punisher mini every few years (set in the Max universe). We'll continue to have those to look forward to, and I believe we have one coming out next eyar.

**The Invincible Beawulf** · 08-07-2021, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by InfamousBG

I love what he stands for. With that said, he does not stand for what most morons in this country use his logo or symbol for. Most of those people don't even know that the Punishers real name is Frank Castle.

Well said! I think many of those 'fans' know The Punisher from the Netflix show (which was excellent btw)

To be honest, I don't understand why he is generally misunderstood...

Hope we will see more Frank in the future.

**Eto** · 08-07-2021, 09:51 AM

I want him back as well, but in good hands of course.

**ed2962** · 08-07-2021, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Invincible Beawulf

Well said! I think many of those 'fans' know The Punisher from the Netflix show (which was excellent btw)

To be honest, I don't understand why he is generally misunderstood...

Hope we will see more Frank in the future.

Well...I'm not so sure he is misunderstood. Sure, the character started as an antagonist, but Marvel has sold him as cool anti-hero for decades.

**InfamousBG** · 08-07-2021, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Invincible Beawulf

Well said! I think many of those 'fans' know The Punisher from the Netflix show (which was excellent btw)

To be honest, I don't understand why he is generally misunderstood...

Hope we will see more Frank in the future.

Ya I am hoping for a new book or title in the coming future. Just killing him off because Marvel does not want to deal with the logo bull$hit going on is lame.

**Thor-Ul** · 08-07-2021, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by ed2962

Well...I'm not so sure he is misunderstood. Sure, the character started as an antagonist, but Marvel has sold him as cool anti-hero for decades.

As many other characters, Venom for example.

**The_Last_Czarnian** · 08-08-2021, 05:19 AM

I'd be a bit annoyed if they scrubbed Punisher. Cates already gave the Sentry a thorough shafting, so if they bump off Frank as well then there really won't be a lot left that interests me.

**Triniking1234** · 08-08-2021, 08:03 AM

Punisher and Silver Surfer are two classics I barely see. Surfer just shows up to jobb these days.

**hairys** · 08-08-2021, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by The_Last_Czarnian

I'd be a bit annoyed if they scrubbed Punisher. Cates already gave the Sentry a thorough shafting, so if they bump off Frank as well then there really won't be a lot left that interests me.

He hasn't had a good 616 series in a long time. I'm a huge fan of Frank but I'm okay with him going away for awhile and returning when the culture war isn't hovering over him. Then maybe we could get good comics with him again.

**cc008** · 08-08-2021, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by hairys

He hasn't had a good 616 series in a long time. I'm a huge fan of Frank but I'm okay with him going away for awhile and returning when the culture war isn't hovering over him. Then maybe we could get good comics with him again.

Rosenberg's series was wonderful.. and fairly recent.

**K7P5V** · 08-08-2021, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by hairys

He hasn't had a good 616 series in a long time. I'm a huge fan of Frank but I'm okay with him going away for awhile and returning when the culture war isn't hovering over him. Then maybe we could get good comics with him again.

That's very sad. I keep forgetting that most of Frank's stories (no matter how solidly written) aren't considered a part of 616

Originally Posted by cc008

Rosenberg's series was wonderful.. and fairly recent.

I thought it was fine, along with...

The Punisher Kill Krew
(2019)

**hairys** · 08-09-2021, 05:26 AM

Yeah, I did enjoy the Punisher Kill Krew mini. Rosenberg's run? Blech. (To each their own, of course).

The last ongoing run I thought was good was Rucka's, but even his story with Punisherette was derivative of one Ennis had already written in Punisher MAX.

**K7P5V** · 08-09-2021, 06:45 AM

Yeah, Rucka's Punisher WarZone is still an all-time favorite (IMHO):

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