Confirmed: Hickman is leaving the X-Men after Inferno

[Purplevit]

Lol, with Hickman as editor Colossus would never even get a panel with dialogue. The same would go to Gambit and Rogue.
Hickman don't care about them at best and hates them at worst.

He already marked characters that he likes and don't care what fans want. Maybe even likes to troll fans.

[Spiderfan001]

Is there anything to suggest Hickman particularly cares about Colossus, or are we just mythologising Hickman now as a magical white saviour who will return from the dead on the seventh day and restore our favourite characters to the prominence they so clearly deserve?

Hickman does a lot of good things, but colossus isn't a character he has shown to care about yet.Inferno might change that.
He doesn't hate him as some say, he hasn't gotten the chance to write him.

[Devaishwarya]

Isn't that the whole problem now though, it won't play out. The current creators no longer want to pursue the original story path and just plan to meander in Krakoa until everyone gets bored of it...

1: We don't know that for certain.
2: We don't know that for certain. Plus they can "meander" as long as they want, just as long as they tell interesting and engaging stories. (Funny enough, No one ever accused Claremont of meandering and that dude meandered all over the damn place.)

As we have seen, these "plans" are all subject to the whims of change...nothing is for absolute certain. Even when we thought things ere consistent...the really weren't. It's just that we weren't privy to all the changes and redirections and decisions that were made and which impacted the stories we got.

[Purplevit]

If Hickman wanted to use Colossus or any other character than he would had used him in any capasity in HOX POX, Swords of X, any HiX-Man or Giant sizes issues.

He had a chance to write any Marvel character. He just didn't bother. Why to use tanks Colossus or Rogue who both are more fan favorite if Hickman can use Monet instead that is his favorite?

[Devaishwarya]

*gaspshockhorror!*

In a literary first...Writer uses their favourite characters in lieu of the "fans favourites" to tell their story.

The effrontery!

[davetvs]

*gaspshockhorror!*

In a literary first...Writer uses their favourite characters in lieu of the "fans favourites" to tell their story.

The effrontery!

God forbid! There's nobody else in the world who'd rather read Monet than Colossus or Rogue, can you even imagine?????????????

[JB]

1: We don't know that for certain.
2: We don't know that for certain. Plus they can "meander" as long as they want, just as long as they tell interesting and engaging stories. (Funny enough, No one ever accused Claremont of meandering and that dude meandered all over the damn place.)

As we have seen, these "plans" are all subject to the whims of change...nothing is for absolute certain. Even when we thought things ere consistent...the really weren't. It's just that we weren't privy to all the changes and redirections and decisions that were made and which impacted the stories we got.

That's the thing that gets me. Hickman's plans changed and now people seem to know exactly how it's all going to turn out ("it'll be a bore, it'll be horrible"). As you said, plans change all the time so none of us know exactly how things will play out. Let's see what happens.

[Devaishwarya]

@daveT
I...I just...can't...

@Sibling
Exactatiously.

[carmoc1234]

1: We don't know that for certain.
2: We don't know that for certain. Plus they can "meander" as long as they want, just as long as they tell interesting and engaging stories. (Funny enough, No one ever accused Claremont of meandering and that dude meandered all over the damn place.)

As we have seen, these "plans" are all subject to the whims of change...nothing is for absolute certain. Even when we thought things ere consistent...the really weren't. It's just that we weren't privy to all the changes and redirections and decisions that were made and which impacted the stories we got.

i suppose the difference between now and with claremont is he was the only writer and when he meandered there was no one to blame but him (and the editors i guess but that's not really the same thing as this). with this other writers have affected the pacing of the main narrative of hickmans story and may have resulted in a worse story overall, we wont know until the last issue releases.

[Wolverine12]

If Hickman wanted to use Colossus or any other character than he would had used him in any capasity in HOX POX, Swords of X, any HiX-Man or Giant sizes issues.

He had a chance to write any Marvel character. He just didn't bother. Why to use tanks Colossus or Rogue who both are more fan favorite if Hickman can use Monet instead that is his favorite?

Colossus seems to be playing a significant role in Inferno based on the ad's we've seen.

[yellow cyclone]

God forbid! There's nobody else in the world who'd rather read Monet than Colossus or Rogue, can you even imagine?????????????

can't believe hickman would give monet a chance to shine but it's tough with all those decades of stories that never featured colossus or rogue

[JB]

From today's X-Men Monday
https://aiptcomics.com/2021/09/20/x-...than-hickman/:

AIPT: Multiple X-Fans wanted to know if we’ll ever see your original three-act structure for the X-Men. Obviously, the ideas in there could still appear on the printed page, but is this something you could see yourself one day releasing, teasing in a newsletter or eventually seeing print as back matter in a collection? OR… should X-Fans give up all hope?

Jonathan: I understand where this question is coming from — I do get it — but I think it misses the point of the whole X-Men experiment.

There’s no version of this where I’m putting plans in my back pocket to save for another day, or some great character beat that I’m holding onto and no one is allowed to use it (or the character) until I get around to it. That’s not what this is. Everything I have already done, everything I’m currently working on, and everything I had plans to do in the future belongs to the team. That was the point of having a room and a cohesive group of creators working together.

I promise you’ll be seeing plenty of those ideas and plans executed in other books or amalgamated into broader concepts. The big questions and resulting conflicts I was getting at aren’t disappearing from the line — those things are baked in. They’re inevitable in a lot of ways.

It just won’t be happening on a timeline that I can work on.

Which is perfectly fine. The team is going to do great. If anything, I think some of them will flourish without me taking up all the oxygen in the room.

I really hope I don’t sound too prickly about this, but these are my guys. I’m very fond of them, and they’ve done a great job — everything that was asked of them.

And if I’m being completely honest, I’m kinda jealous of some of the stuff they’re getting ready to do over the next few years. The plans are amazing.

AIPT: Since House of X #1, you and the other X-Creators have set up countless plots — any number of which could have been at the center of Inferno. I’m curious, what made the Moira/Mystique/Destiny story the logical choice?

Jonathan: It’s the correct pivot point, and that’s the way people should probably think about it. Especially with what the line is going to look like after Ben’s Ten Lives and Ten Deaths of Wolverine book starts in January.

When the distribution is finally switched over, and as solicits roll out here over the next couple months or so, you guys are going to see all the things we’ve been keeping secret and/or holding back so that the calendar could get aligned.

A good example of this is Victor’s Sabretooth book that got announced last week which is part of a triptych he’s working on. He, along with several other writers, have actually been in the room for over half a year, working away on this next phase of X-Men titles.

[Winter_fury]

From today's X-Men Monday
https://aiptcomics.com/2021/09/20/x-...than-hickman/:

AIPT: Multiple X-Fans wanted to know if we’ll ever see your original three-act structure for the X-Men. Obviously, the ideas in there could still appear on the printed page, but is this something you could see yourself one day releasing, teasing in a newsletter or eventually seeing print as back matter in a collection? OR… should X-Fans give up all hope?

Jonathan: I understand where this question is coming from — I do get it — but I think it misses the point of the whole X-Men experiment.

There’s no version of this where I’m putting plans in my back pocket to save for another day, or some great character beat that I’m holding onto and no one is allowed to use it (or the character) until I get around to it. That’s not what this is. Everything I have already done, everything I’m currently working on, and everything I had plans to do in the future belongs to the team. That was the point of having a room and a cohesive group of creators working together.

I promise you’ll be seeing plenty of those ideas and plans executed in other books or amalgamated into broader concepts. The big questions and resulting conflicts I was getting at aren’t disappearing from the line — those things are baked in. They’re inevitable in a lot of ways.

It just won’t be happening on a timeline that I can work on.

Which is perfectly fine. The team is going to do great. If anything, I think some of them will flourish without me taking up all the oxygen in the room.

I really hope I don’t sound too prickly about this, but these are my guys. I’m very fond of them, and they’ve done a great job — everything that was asked of them.

And if I’m being completely honest, I’m kinda jealous of some of the stuff they’re getting ready to do over the next few years. The plans are amazing.

AIPT: Since House of X #1, you and the other X-Creators have set up countless plots — any number of which could have been at the center of Inferno. I’m curious, what made the Moira/Mystique/Destiny story the logical choice?

Jonathan: It’s the correct pivot point, and that’s the way people should probably think about it. Especially with what the line is going to look like after Ben’s Ten Lives and Ten Deaths of Wolverine book starts in January.

When the distribution is finally switched over, and as solicits roll out here over the next couple months or so, you guys are going to see all the things we’ve been keeping secret and/or holding back so that the calendar could get aligned.

A good example of this is Victor’s Sabretooth book that got announced last week which is part of a triptych he’s working on. He, along with several other writers, have actually been in the room for over half a year, working away on this next phase of X-Men titles.

Meh having plans is good and all but its about the execution and most of these writes are mediocre at there job so I don’t really have faith in there plans.

[JB]

Meh having plans is good and all but its about the execution and most of these writes are mediocre at there job so I don’t really have faith in there plans.

I'm happy at least with him confirming they've been working on the structure of the new phase for a while now.

[Devaishwarya]

Thank you Sibling.
And it's just as I thought.
Now if only his response would placate the disgruntled few from screaming that the sky is falling...but somehow I don't think it will.