Aren’t the Avengers these days a shadow of the power and influence they were at by the end of AvX?
Uncanny Avengers ran headlong into the fact that it was apparently supposed to be the flagship book for all Marvel as it came down from its “my god, our b-list team full of c-listers just made a billion dollars” high; but had the legs taken out from under it before it even began by Hickman and Bendis’ respective plans
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It feels like it's only a matter of time and chance until someone gets switched around in Disney's management and decides that a good way to increase their profile is to investigate why the company isn't making a lot more money from Marvel's comic division despite the sucess of the movies and toylines (which should logicaly cause a synergy effect with the comics) and the long time success of their traditional comic lines.
Especialy given the dire state their parks had been in since 2020 and the issues with getting the movie profits back to previous level.
Which would certainly cause a lot of tabula rasa in editorial and marketing, because of mismangemant of their "prime" IPs like this.
I'd like Uncanny Avengers back. Or Wanda to be on a magic team like what was teased at the end of Damnation. That magic team also had Magik and Nico on it.
Love is for souls, not bodies.
I am a Marvel fan preferably cosmic storylines, especially Thanos or Dark Phoenix related, when both the Avengers and the X-Men are involved count me in, loved the original Uncanny Avengers series.
Not a fan of any of the new characters.
(Marvel/DC fan for 44+ years)
Save for a handful of particular characters (Hulk and Spider characters), I'd rather the Avengers and characters adjacent to them be kept in their corner of the Marvel U. I don't see a reason for the two to interact outside of a MAJOR crisis.
Mutant and Proud
Krakoa FOREVER!!!
I think that can work.
BUT. Why not? Make the Emma/Tony book.
I think it can work but make it all mutants. Have a few ties to the Avengers but it needs to be mutants doing good and being heroes.
Sort of like a Justice League / X-Men take
Namor
Justice
Firestar
Quicksilver
Archangel
Sunspot
Dazzler
Penance (Monet)
Colossus
Cannonball
Darkstar
could maybe swap in Storm or Rogue if you wanted a more popular character but I like Monet getting more of a chance. she's pretty strong herself. you could bring in Wanda herself again but still feel the mutants wouldn't like that.
I suppose that makes sense if you ignore the tins of books that keep spinning out if Avengers, the events they're in the forefront of...
To keep it short just because you like what the books are doing doesn't mean they've been written off.
The Avengers don't have a "corner" they're made up of tons of different characters with different backgrounds, they're not a corner of the MU, they basically are the MU.
Agreed that the Avengers really should be representing all corners of the Marvel Universe. Gods, space heroes, street levelers, and yes, mutants. Before the Uncanny Avengers came along, I really liked Busiek's lineup for that reason. Heck, he threw in '90s Beast, the Sentinels, and a cameo by Apocalypse into the mix, too.
Kind of a retcon but in-universe the Avengers almost got to this point in Avengers Annual 1999. It was told in a series of flashbacks when the Avengers and the FF were believed killed by Onslaught. Black Widow approached the following heroes to restart the team but almost all had turned down or postponed the offer (and Moondragon shot herself in the foot):
Black Widow - Leader
Archangel
Iceman
Beast
Hercules (Natasha pointed out that these first five would be a reunion and expansion of the Champions)
War Machine
Daredevil
Moondragon (she demanded to be the leader)
Quicksilver
Ant-Man (Scott Lang)
She-Hulk
Sure, it's not an all-mutant team, but it represented various corners simultaneously, and I'd be interested to read that lineup.
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I don't think Uncanny Avengers would work now. It's pretty much utterly redundant in the Krakoa era, which is going to continue for the foreseeable future.
The Avengers have been turned by Bendis, Hickman, and Aaron, into a bunch of randoms with no real dynamics. They have become completely generic. I'm not sure that can even be fixed.
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