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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtynun View Post
    Naaa the article, but rouge storm she is stated to have nigh infinite power.
    oh gotcha you mean this interview:





    when I found this a few months back I was ecstatic such a gem.
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Ahh, so this is where that infamous quote comes from! Nice to finally see it in all its' glory

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    What magazine is that page from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtynun View Post
    if Jean already has immeasurable basically infinite power telepathic doesn't that mean the pheonix can't amplify her telepathic powers only draw out its potential? Because I keep think about it and an omega level mutant getting amped doesn't make sense as like how do you amp the immeasurable? Immeasurable plus immeasurable is still immeasurable
    Current definition isn't about immeasurable power/no upper limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    Current definition isn't about immeasurable power/no upper limit
    Jean has just been declared to have a 7 which is immeasurable mental power. Legion has been stated to have limitless personalities each with their own power that he can borrow or use. So I am sure that's what the definition alludes to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    Current definition isn't about immeasurable power/no upper limit
    The current definition of what? Being an Omega Level Mutant literally means said mutant’s power has an “undefinable upper limit.”

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    Specifically the definition states that an omega level mutant is one whose dominant power is deemed to register - or reach--an undefinable upper limit of that power's specific classification.
    Then we had the example using both Magneto and Forge to explain why Forge isn't considered one - Forge can be surpassed but "while the upper limit of Magneto's power cannot be surpassed in any measurable fashion".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechaJeanix View Post
    Specifically the definition states that an omega level mutant is one whose dominant power is deemed to register - or reach--an undefinable upper limit of that power's specific classification.
    Then we had the example using both Magneto and Forge to explain why Forge isn't considered one - Forge can be surpassed but "while the upper limit of Magneto's power cannot be surpassed in any measurable fashion".
    The word cannot instead of has not is very interesting.... It simply means no matter how much power one achieves in magnetism they would never surpass magneto as magneto has an immeasurable upper limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechaJeanix View Post
    Specifically the definition states that an omega level mutant is one whose dominant power is deemed to register - or reach--an undefinable upper limit of that power's specific classification.
    Then we had the example using both Magneto and Forge to explain why Forge isn't considered one - Forge can be surpassed but "while the upper limit of Magneto's power cannot be surpassed in any measurable fashion".

    Forge and Magneto are the most powerful mutants of their power types (technopathy and magnetism respectively)

    However the upper limit of Forges powers can be hypothetically surpassed (and has) while the upper limit of Magnetos power set cannot be surpassed in any measurable fashion.

    That is the two key important points in the example given. The fact that they use the word hypothetical as well is key.

    Its a bit like One Piece Logia, Paramecia and Zoan. Only specific power classifications can be in the running for Omega.

    Magneto is a logia, while Forge is a paramecia.

    In other words despite Forge being the most powerful mutant technopath, no technopath can be Omega because its theoretically possible to conceive a limit to technopathy. And this has been demonstarted by mutliple humans

    Just like no mutant basket weaver could be an omega or Caliban (mutant tracker) could be an omega cause a machine can and could hypothetically do the same or better even if Caliban was boosted to sense mutants across rhe galaxy Cerebro could theoretically do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Forge and Magneto are the most powerful mutants of their power types (technopathy and magnetism respectively)

    However the upper limit of Forges powers can be hypothetically surpassed (and has) while the upper limit of Magnetos power set cannot be surpassed in any measurable fashion.

    That is the two key important points in the example given. The fact that they use the word hypothetical as well is key.

    Its a bit like One Piece Logia, Paramecia and Zoan. Only specific power classifications can be in the running for Omega.

    Magneto is a logia, while Forge is a paramecia.

    In other words despite Forge being the most powerful mutant technopath, no technopath can be Omega because its theoretically possible to conceive a limit to technopathy. And this has been demonstarted by mutliple humans

    Just like no mutant basket weaver could be an omega or Caliban (mutant tracker) could be an omega cause a machine can and could hypothetically do the same or better even if Caliban was boosted to sense mutants across rhe galaxy Cerebro could theoretically do the same.

    So you are wrong forge is not the most powerful technopath he is the most powerful mutant technopath. He not being omega gas nothing to do with technopathy as a power it simply means that forges power has upper limits. If there is a mutant born with unlimited or immeasurable technopathy? They would be deemed omega level. Until then no mutant technopath has undefinable upper limits to their power, your devil fruit analogy doesn't make sense.

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