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    Default Bored so here's two anime sword-people free for alls for the price of one!!!

    The title basically says everything so let's get to it. Both fights take place Tokyo. The two groups are:

    Fight 1:
    - King Bradley (Fullmetal Alchemist)
    - Shigure Kosaka (History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi)
    - Akame (Akame Ga Kill!)
    - Tanjiro Kamado (Kimetsu No Yaiba)
    - Tatewaki Kuno (Ranma ½)

    Fight 2:
    - Roronoa Zoro (One Piece)
    - Kenpachi Zaraki (Bleach)*
    - Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
    - Yami Sukehiro (Black Clover)
    - Yu Kanda (D.Gray-man)
    - Kuromaru Tokisaka (UQ Holder)**
    - Arthur Boyle (Fire Force)

    Who wins each group?

    *Everybody can see and interact with Kenpachi.
    **Since Kuromaru is an immortal with a potent healing factor they can be defeated if somebody pins them down for 10 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    The title basically says everything so let's get to it. Both fights take place Tokyo. The two groups are:

    Fight 1:
    - King Bradley (Fullmetal Alchemist)
    - Shigure Kosaka (History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi)
    - Akame (Akame Ga Kill!)
    - Tanjiro Kamado (Kimetsu No Yaiba)
    - Tatewaki Kuno (Ranma ½)
    I don't know Akame at all so can't comment on her. For my money it's between Shigure and Tanjiro. Shigure, I think, is perhaps a little faster? I don't recall her feats that well but she and Tanjiro have way higher abilities and speed than anyone else.

    Fight 2:
    - Roronoa Zoro (One Piece)
    - Kenpachi Zaraki (Bleach)*
    - Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
    - Yami Sukehiro (Black Clover)
    - Yu Kanda (D.Gray-man)
    - Kuromaru Tokisaka (UQ Holder)**
    Erm... oh boy this could take a while. Kanda and Kuromaru both have insane healing factors, though Kuromaru obviously has the advantage there. Kuromaru also got fairly big buffs when they became the vessel for the spirit sword thingie so they might be a bit too fast for everyone else here? They were a good match for Infinite Magic Mode Touta which is pretty high scale.

    Meanwhile, Zoro and Kenpachi are incredibly powerful bricks with wild levels of scale in terms of what they can do. They could certainly go for the pin.

    Yami has some good gimmicks but I don't think he's quick enough to matter. I don't really know where Erza ended up or what all her powers ended up being.

    Not sure, advantage Kuromaru because they can just play keepaway until everyone else gets tired?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    I don't know Akame at all so can't comment on her. For my money it's between Shigure and Tanjiro. Shigure, I think, is perhaps a little faster? I don't recall her feats that well but she and Tanjiro have way higher abilities and speed than anyone else.
    Akame hangs with people that are nebulously multi-mach, and has at least once dodged a lightning bolt. Her sword, Murasame, can infect anybody it cuts with a poison that kills the victim within seconds. Though it is possible to remove the poison by very quickly cutting off the body part that's been infected.
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    Erm... oh boy this could take a while. Kanda and Kuromaru both have insane healing factors, though Kuromaru obviously has the advantage there. Kuromaru also got fairly big buffs when they became the vessel for the spirit sword thingie so they might be a bit too fast for everyone else here? They were a good match for Infinite Magic Mode Touta which is pretty high scale.

    Meanwhile, Zoro and Kenpachi are incredibly powerful bricks with wild levels of scale in terms of what they can do. They could certainly go for the pin.

    Yami has some good gimmicks but I don't think he's quick enough to matter. I don't really know where Erza ended up or what all her powers ended up being.

    Not sure, advantage Kuromaru because they can just play keepaway until everyone else gets tired?
    Here's a sequence of Erza, with most of her bones broken, destroying a meteor summoned by her dragon momma. It's from the end of the original series and she hasn't really topped it in the sequel series. Still might not be enough to keep up with some of the others here in terms of speed and raw power. But it should make her a threat, and she's got pretty mad endurance.

    Also, forgot to add Arthur Boyle to this fight. So I've added him in now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    Akame hangs with people that are nebulously multi-mach, and has at least once dodged a lightning bolt. Her sword, Murasame, can infect anybody it cuts with a poison that kills the victim within seconds. Though it is possible to remove the poison by very quickly cutting off the body part that's been infected.
    Well, that's about where I'd pitch Shigure and endgame Tanjiro, lightning bolt sounding firmly beyond them but IDK if that's SMvsFL or no.

    The fact she has an instant death weapon though sounds like she might have a bit more of an edge. They have to actually hit her mortally to do damage, she just has to get a single cut to win. Advantage Akame.

    Here's a sequence of Erza, with most of her bones broken, destroying a meteor summoned by her dragon momma. It's from the end of the original series and she hasn't really topped it in the sequel series. Still might not be enough to keep up with some of the others here in terms of speed and raw power. But it should make her a threat, and she's got pretty mad endurance.
    I recall that feat, how fast is she?

    Also, forgot to add Arthur Boyle to this fight. So I've added him in now.
    Is this "I just played Dragon Quest for a day and can now fight Dragon evenly," level Arthur? Because that likely changes things. Arthur is comparatively very fragile but also hits like an absolute truck. It's important to remember that most people in Fire Force have latent resistance to heat and flame so Arthur's plasma sword is inherently less damaging than it could be.

    The people he's against here? No such resistance.

    Though, Zoro's Fox Fire Cut might do some fun things to his sword.

    How far are we allowing Arthur's "I believe I can therefore I can," kind of strength to be a thing? He might be able to like... conceptually cut Kuromaru and prevent regeneration or something simply because he believes that his sword could slay them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Well, that's about where I'd pitch Shigure and endgame Tanjiro, lightning bolt sounding firmly beyond them but IDK if that's SMvsFL or no.

    The fact she has an instant death weapon though sounds like she might have a bit more of an edge. They have to actually hit her mortally to do damage, she just has to get a single cut to win. Advantage Akame.
    I do think that the lightning is a bit SMvsFL, especially since it only happens once, and I don't think any other speed feat is quite on par with that.

    And yeah, the instant death poison is a definite advantage to Akame. Getting the sword away from her would probably be the best first priority for the others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    I recall that feat, how fast is she?
    Hmmm. Nebulous to say sadly. Fairy Tail isn't great with solid speed feats. Erza and her friends do casually treat objects falling or flying through the air as plattforms to jump around on pretty regulary. And even joke character Taurus has a bullet time feat where he strikes down bullets fired from a shotgun and he gets blitzed by Natsu. Then things go up from there and I think Erza tops out at like hypersonic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Is this "I just played Dragon Quest for a day and can now fight Dragon evenly," level Arthur? Because that likely changes things. Arthur is comparatively very fragile but also hits like an absolute truck. It's important to remember that most people in Fire Force have latent resistance to heat and flame so Arthur's plasma sword is inherently less damaging than it could be.

    The people he's against here? No such resistance.

    Though, Zoro's Fox Fire Cut might do some fun things to his sword.

    How far are we allowing Arthur's "I believe I can therefore I can," kind of strength to be a thing? He might be able to like... conceptually cut Kuromaru and prevent regeneration or something simply because he believes that his sword could slay them.
    Yes, it is Arthur that dukes it out evenly with Dragon.

    What was the biggest concept Arthur... believed into existence? I remember him floating around in space with half his body gone and only being a bit miffed about it while the world burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    I do think that the lightning is a bit SMvsFL, especially since it only happens once, and I don't think any other speed feat is quite on par with that.

    And yeah, the instant death poison is a definite advantage to Akame. Getting the sword away from her would probably be the best first priority for the others.
    Shigure does have a lot of weapon-disarming moves in her arsenal but if Akame is about as fast as her, which she seems she might be, that's a lot of risk.

    Hmmm. Nebulous to say sadly. Fairy Tail isn't great with solid speed feats. Erza and her friends do casually treat objects falling or flying through the air as plattforms to jump around on pretty regulary. And even joke character Taurus has a bullet time feat where he strikes down bullets fired from a shotgun and he gets blitzed by Natsu. Then things go up from there and I think Erza tops out at like hypersonic.
    So competitive but she's weaker than Kenpachi, cuts less well than Zoro, probably a bit a slower than Kuromaru and probably Kanda, can't regenerate like either of them either, is less versatile than Yami with his black holes and dimension cutting. She's not weak by any stretch but she's not really got any major strengths to give her an edge either.

    Yes, it is Arthur that dukes it out evenly with Dragon.

    What was the biggest concept Arthur... believed into existence? I remember him floating around in space with half his body gone and only being a bit miffed about it while the world burned.
    So, to just lay out in full, Arthur was something the range of "ostensibly highly skilled third generation pyromancer with a specialism in plasma manipulation," He was a strong and pretty decent swordsman, not even a bullet timer to my knowledge. However, his connection to Adolla as a conceptual dream-space from which all things spring from allow him to redefine what his powers are based in his understanding of reality and his perception of himself.

    Arthur, having suffered a defeat and being faced with the prospect of having to fight the second most powerful being in the entire setting, goes and sits down and plays through Dragon Question [read: Dragon Quest] on a Super Famicom, apparently working on the belief that this game was a trial put to him by the gods and that defeating it would allow him wield the true power of Excalibur.

    While doing this, several of the fights he has in the game mirror real world fights happening in the real world. This could be mere thematic parallel or it could be that Arthur's actions in the game are influencing the reality around him to some degree.

    After getting up to the final boss, Arthur is like "Okay, time to go deal with the real Dragon,"

    New powers he then manifests are as follows:

    - Excalibur is able to locate and point to Vulcan's best friend Yu when Vulcan holds the sword up. This despite neither Arthur nor Vulcan knowing where Yu is, Vulcan not having designed Excalibur to be able to do this and Vulcan not even being a pryokinetic so there's no way the sword [which is just a vessel for Arthur's power] to even work when he holds it.
    - Arthur can now teleport himself and Vulcan inside a bolt of 8-bit style lightning. No explanation for how that works, he just can do it now because it's a skill from Dragon Quest.
    - Arthur is now skilled enough to use his plasma like a gamma knife and burn a parasitic insect out of Yu's brain without hurting him despite never showing that level of precision before.
    - Arthur can now fly.
    - Arthur can now manipulate the weather to pull lightning into his blades to make his attacks stronger.
    - Arthur's attack power is strong enough that he can hurt Dragon were he couldn't even make him feel his attacks before. Dragon is even like "Ah, so this is pain. I've never felt it before,"
    - Arthur is now durable enough that he can take hits from Dragon who is capable of zorching massive chunks out of a city with his attacks and physically strong enough to part the seas with his swings and punch people into space.
    - Arthur's attack power continues to rise as the fight goes on, so the damage he does to Dragon increases. Again, no explanation for why other than Arthur yelling, "You haven't felt the true might of Excalibur yet,"
    - When taken to space, the narration explicitly says that Arthur cannot survive in vacuum but because he doesn't know that, it doesn't matter. But he does know that he can't breath so he collapses. He then puts on an ordinary metal ring he has designated the "Star Ring" and he can now breathe in space. This also causes like a video game-style "Arthur has equipped the Star Ring," prompt to appear in the real world alongside them that are solid enough for Arthur to stand on them.
    - Arthur also claims that the Star Ring gives him the power to take in the thoughts of the people of earth and convert them into power, he spawns a fancy cape and becomes even more powerful.
    - Dragon punches two fist sized holes clean through Arthur while they fight in space. It doesn't seem to slow him down.
    - In their final exchange, Dragon vaporises everything from Arthur's chest downward. Legs gone, stomach and likely most of his lungs gone. He still swings in his final attack, cuts Dragon in half and the scale of the attack is large enough that goes from the moon to the earth - apparently bisecting the earth on a spiritual level - and cuts through the concept of Despair that was causing humanity to lose hope.
    - Having been reduced to the remains of a torso floating in space Arthur is like "this will take me a while to recover from," He then fully regenerates, including his clothes, offscreen within like... half an hour or something?
    - He also apparently brings his sword to life on the basis that "A knight's weapon would likely have a soul," and so Excalibur becomes a fully sentient being over time.
    - He also repeatedly cuts from space into the conceptual dimension space of Adolla to bonk Shinra on the head when he's in danger of succumbing to his rage.

    So yeah, he just gains the ability to do a bunch of stuff because he believes he can. It's kind of hard to figure out what that means in a Rumbles setting but it's up there.
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