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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathlonian View Post
    I really doubt that new 52 Superman was sustainable

    You have to revamp new 52 Superman into something different from the very foundation

    New 52 had everything against him in hindsight

    Making matters worse is that unlike Jon…new 52 Superman never really had much significance to a certain segment of the fanbase that incentivized people to support him.

    Jon represents a complete rejection to the new 52’s Superman

    Thus much of his fanbase intersects with those that truly loathe new 52 superman because to them, getting rid of Jon and the marriage intersects with bringing new 52 Superman back

    Which isn’t acceptable


    Whereas most new 52 superman fans are really only fans of grant Morrison’s take on the character, which only lasted about a few arcs

    Most of them would be on board with daddy Superman if he was more socialist
    Completely disagree. I also don't like Superman as a dad period.

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    Superman as a dad is something I do not like in the least, and frankly will never like. Superdad is just not interesting. I can tolerate it and hope the dad aspects don't pop up to much, but it's not a draw.

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    Golden Age Superman for me, not surprising as the Superman Dailies and Sunday strips, as well as the Flesicher cartoons are my favorite versions of Superman.

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    Surprisingly I got Silver Age Superman from your quiz. I do like many aspects of Pre Crisis Superman, but I grew up on Post Crisis Superman and All Star is my favourite version of the character so I thought I would get one of those two. Given that Bronze Age Superman was one of your answers, I'm surprised I didn't get him either.

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    I got Silver Age Superman: Krypto, the Legion of Superheroes, The Justice League, Braniac, the Phantom Zone, Imaginary Stories, all that and monkeys in capes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    I don't like daddy superman..period.morrison's all star and authority superman is the exception.Superman comes of paternalistic most of the time with other writers.


    I tend to think it's because There is a lack of cohesive vision in new52.
    Daddy Superman is the Rebirth Superman, the one with a kid. He's not talking about the "savior complex".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Daddy Superman is the Rebirth Superman, the one with a kid. He's not talking about the "savior complex".
    To be fair it kind of is related - there were a lot of fans here who went "it makes sense to make him a dad because he always acted like a dad" or some sentiment just like that.

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    I got bronze age.

    The think I like with a lot of the Supergirl stories is that Kal-El gets to play at being a dad, even if he's not really a parent. Same with Kon-El and Cir-El too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    I got bronze age.

    The think I like with a lot of the Supergirl stories is that Kal-El gets to play at being a dad, even if he's not really a parent. Same with Kon-El and Cir-El too.
    Depends. Silver Age Superman sort of was a parental figure to Supergirl... but a pretty terrible one at that, and then Linda got actually good parental figures first in the Danvers and then in her biological parents coming back.

    Bronze Age Superman and Supergirl definitely didn't have a parent-child relationship, from what I've read of them. It was more like siblings or, well, close cousins.

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    Wasn't the question if you identify with Superman as a father figure? I didn't want to agree with that too much. In the 1960s, I did identify Superman with my father and also with my big brother. And since I was reading SUPERBOY, I identified him with myself. So that was one of those questions when I could only somewhat agree.

    While I'm okay with Supes as a figurative father, I don't like him as a literal father--except in imaginary stories.
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    I've never thought of Superman as a father figure. It was just ingrained in me from my earliest days to take to heart Reeve's quote from the movie, that he's a friend. That's how I always thought of him, Earth's friend, who's always there for it.
    "They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El

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    Quote Originally Posted by DochaDocha View Post
    The lack of cohesion is certainly true, but I think it's also that Superman doesn't have to be all in your face about the things that are distinctly New 52. It's not like when he's fighting a villain, he's going to give a speech about how he was having a conversation with his GF Wonder Woman about what it's like to be orphaned and wondering if the collar and trunkless costume are appropriately stylish enough for social crusader superheroes. I really think there are some universal traits across the Superman of different eras that you'll naturally see a lot of commonalities if you picked two books at random.

    Also, take a concept like who is the real person and who's the secret ID, Superman or Clark Kent? I know what Morrison's take is, but I'm not totally sure I know what New 52 Superman's opinion is. To me, it's really not THAT important of a plot point, except I do get annoyed when the character goes out of his way to say Superman is a facade or that he's just a farmboy at heart or stuff like that. Thankfully, there isn't a line like that every other issue, so it ends up being more of a trivia tidbit than a central theme.
    Sure,there is connective intersections and commonalities between supermen because the character evolved and didn't get rebooted except for byrne and flashpoint.It still is superman.

    I tend to think there are irreconcilable differences,like opinions on general outlook, political leanings,even allegories and symbolisms used by the main writers that define the era like siegel, mort weisinger, byrne and morrison.For example,byrne superman doesn't care for direct action.Morrison's superman is all about that.All writers can do is present their superman by taking influences.That also means there will be differences as well.These differences can buildup and make a difference for many..
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Daddy Superman is the Rebirth Superman, the one with a kid. He's not talking about the "savior complex".
    They are connected.Not exactly isolated.Judao Christian stories have "the savior","the ideal" and "god" as the father figure that saves people from themselves.Why?Sheer love.it's called the heavenly father routine for a reason.Superman stories bluntly use it as backdrop.
    "Superman wants to save us because he loves us"
    In what way is silent in that statement.But writers make it clear with their writings.
    "Like a father".
    Superman is essentially metropolis's dad.He can be a cool dad like when Morrison writes him or he can suck..
    This guy is a father figure in his story.He is a good father.

    Parallel.

    This has all connotations of a father's love.(clark is very much a hugger).Another thing both men are said to be "world's strongest men" powerful enough to break it.But,they constantly keep themselves in check inorder to not do so.That's a father's fear of breaking his "family".They constantly struggle with being over-assertive and not enough with children.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    I've never thought of Superman as a father figure. It was just ingrained in me from my earliest days to take to heart Reeve's quote from the movie, that he's a friend. That's how I always thought of him, Earth's friend, who's always there for it.
    Donner movies have it in spades.Donner's Clark might profess to be a friend.But,he's a dad in action.
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    Golden Age Superman for me, not surprising as the Superman Dailies and Sunday strips, as well as the Flesicher cartoons are my favorite versions of Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Slayer View Post
    I said no trunks and got a Supes with trunks lol it happens.
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    I got the Golden Age Superman. I'd say the Golden Age and the "Bronze" Age represent Superman at his narrative peaks imo.
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