Superhero lineages and impact that should still be around in the Legion era.

[NaVi]

That's not impossible. Kara's been a Red Lantern.

and green lanters have been seen in the legion.

[NaVi]

The DC universe is a shared universe, but it is made up of microverses, Superman has his, WW has his, Batman has his. To say that the Legion belongs to a shared universe that is why it has to be part of WW, Batman, etc. but instead accepting that Gotham only belongs to the Batmanverse is ridiculous.

[Timber Wolf-By-Night]

A thousand years later, there aren't going to BE legacies of all the present day heroes. 99.99999% of the present day heroes are going to be not just dead, but forgotten. Their legacies and lineages are going to die out LONG before the Legion's time.

Aquaman? Dead and forgotten. Atlantis? Sunk back into legend and mystery. Or utterly destroyed. Or gone to another planet or dimension. Same for Wonder Woman and Themiscyra.

Batman? A footnote in Superman's legend.

Green Arrow, Black Canary, Cyborg, The Question, Captain Atom, Vixen, Blue Beetle, Dr. Light, Booster Gold, The Metal Men, Black Lightning, ALL the Teen Titans, ALL the present day human Green Lanterns, Hawk & Dove, Katana, Mr. Terrific, Plastic-Man, The Atom, heroes on parallel worlds, the Golden Agers, Hawkman and various Hawk-related females, Blue Devil, the Global Guardians, Sgt. Rock, Peacemaker, the Huntress, most of the known speedsters, Adam Strange, and countless others....aren't going to be remembered. Those few whose descendants stretch all the way to the 31st century? 99 percent of those descendants aren't going to continue the heroic tradition. Your personal favorite characters aren't going to stand the test of 1,000 years, sorry. It is not a personal slight to you or your favorite character. Hell, not even all the "immortal" characters or concepts will believably survive that long.

[Alpha]

Aquaman? Dead and forgotten. Atlantis? Sunk back into legend and mystery. Or utterly destroyed. Or gone to another planet or dimension. Same for Wonder Woman and Themiscyra.

Both those huge advanced civilizations existed for thousands of years. Why the hell wouldn't they have an imprint on the world in the year 3000? Specially the amazons whose values were represented in Wonder Woman actively trying to change the world (much more than even Superman who is mostly a protector rather than a radical activist). Plus the amazons already are in another dimension. Your claim makes no sense to me. Dude we still remember civilizations that have been long lost like the Azteks. And Ancient Egypt is still massively important in our culture even though it doesn't directly influence western culture.

Don't get me wrong, I love Superman and I fully appreciate the idea of the Legion having been formed by his legacy, but why wouldn't Wonder Woman / amazons and a few others heroes have a lasting impact on the world a thousand years in the future considering the lore behind her and the ideals she fights for, that are naturally in keeping with the utopian future of the Legion.

[Sutekh]

Both those huge advanced civilizations existed for thousands of years. Why the hell wouldn't they have an imprint on the world of today, specially the amazons whose values were represented in Wonder Woman actively trying to change the world (much more than even Superman who is mostly a protector rather than a radical activist). Plus the amazons already are in another dimension. Your claim makes no sense to me. Dude we still remember civilizations that have been long lost like the Azteks. And Ancient Egypt is still massively important in our culture even though it doesn't directly influence western culture.

Don't get me wrong, I love Superman and I fully appreciate the idea of the Legion having been formed by his legacy, but why wouldn't Wonder Woman / amazons and a few others heroes have a lasting impact on the world a thousand years in the future considering the lore behind her and the ideals she fights for, that are naturally in keeping with the utopian future of the Legion.

Yes to all this. Plus Atlantis has already been mentioned in the classic continuity (during the Great Darkness Saga, IIRC), so that's not even controversial to long-time Legion fans. I believe the sister-city of Poseidonis (where Lori Lemaris was from, IIRC) was also mentioned.

Hal Jordan / John Stewart / Kyle Rayner / Guy Gardner may have been dead for many centuries, but the Green Lantern Corps still exists, just less Earth-centric.

Just because we haven't heard anything about Themiscrya in the Legion's future doesn't mean it doesn't still exist. Marzal, another 'hidden island' in a dimensional fold sure does! The planet doesn't have to be crawling with Amazons, but that doesn't mean that their mission to 'man's world' didn't have any long-lasting effects (like women leaders like Marte Allon benefitting from the lack of sexism in the post-Amazon future, perhaps).

The Great Darkness Saga, arguably the most famous Legion story ever, and certainly the reason why Darkseid is such a big deal even today, drew heavily on elements from the past, including Darkseid himself, but also mention of Oans and Superman (the clones used by Darkseid), Dr. Fate's helmet (one of the magic items he drew power from early in the story), etc.

The Legion is stronger when it can *build* off of elements of the DC's many present-day-set properties. It is vastly, vastly weaker, when they are used to undermine it (can't use Superman as a teen because, reasons! can't have Laurel Kent. can't have Supergirl. can't have Rond Vidar because we killed all the Green Lanterns. can't have, can't have, can't have. That's just nonsense. Five years later, the Green Lantern Corps was back, let alone *one thousand* years later. Supergirl's been back *three times* already. Superman is *far* from 'the only Kryptonian' and there have been *multiple* Superboys!).

The Legion is best, IMO, when the rest of DC is additive to the property, and the 'future' can *build off of* the 'past.' And worst when the rest of the DCU is (mis)used to take things away from them.

[Midnight_v]

A thousand years later, there aren't going to BE legacies of all the present day heroes. 99.99999% of the present day heroes are going to be not just dead, but forgotten. Their legacies and lineages are going to die out LONG before the Legion's time.

Aquaman? Dead and forgotten. Atlantis? Sunk back into legend and mystery. Or utterly destroyed. Or gone to another planet or dimension. Same for Wonder Woman and Themiscyra.

Batman? A footnote in Superman's legend.

Green Arrow, Black Canary, Cyborg, The Question, Captain Atom, Vixen, Blue Beetle, Dr. Light, Booster Gold, The Metal Men, Black Lightning, ALL the Teen Titans, ALL the present day human Green Lanterns, Hawk & Dove, Katana, Mr. Terrific, Plastic-Man, The Atom, heroes on parallel worlds, the Golden Agers, Hawkman and various Hawk-related females, Blue Devil, the Global Guardians, Sgt. Rock, Peacemaker, the Huntress, most of the known speedsters, Adam Strange, and countless others....aren't going to be remembered. Those few whose descendants stretch all the way to the 31st century? 99 percent of those descendants aren't going to continue the heroic tradition. Your personal favorite characters aren't going to stand the test of 1,000 years, sorry. It is not a personal slight to you or your favorite character. Hell, not even all the "immortal" characters or concepts will believably survive that long.

Captain Atom is a future Villain. The Monarch. Existing in and out of space time.
Beyond that and probablyMORE importantly. He's the guy that turns out the light on this (DCs) iteration of the universe. He's sitting there watching the last star burn out. Having a conversation with "Death" from the Endless about what comes next. "Goodbye... and later... Well. Everything" - Death.
Sure... he'll look like more like one of those shitty Doctor Manhattan versions but yeah... He's definitely passing the "TINY" 1000 year mark.

Also what about D.C. 1,000,000? They're way more far-flung than "Matter-eater Lad" Iirc.