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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Oof. Her comic handprint from her fathers' bloody hand.

    Clint met Swordsman in the only way these two could meet.
    I was hoping for "at the circus." (why not - they did a whole larping sequence)

    There was also the handprint turkey drawing on Maya's wall, which was a nice nod.

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    Does she have a prosthetic leg in the comics though? I thought that was a new addition.
    The actress has a prosthetic leg.

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    I liked this episode actually. Echo was immediately interesting for me. I liked the backstory, but I couldn't help but think Kate needed some of that too. They just want you to trust that she is that good at martial arts and archery. Compare it to the little they did with the Echo backstory scene. They actually showed you she learned how to read people, and how to fight.

    It's a little thing but, just seems weird in the same show 2 different approaches to show us training and skill levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidfresh512 View Post
    I liked this episode actually. Echo was immediately interesting for me. I liked the backstory, but I couldn't help but think Kate needed some of that too. They just want you to trust that she is that good at martial arts and archery. Compare it to the little they did with the Echo backstory scene. They actually showed you she learned how to read people, and how to fight.

    It's a little thing but, just seems weird in the same show 2 different approaches to show us training and skill levels.
    What if we end up with another FaWS where the antagonistic anti-hero is more interesting than the main hero?

    Maybe we'll get more Kate flashbacks though

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    Wasn't that what the montage in the first episode was for?

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    Ah shit!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kidfresh512 View Post
    I liked this episode actually. Echo was immediately interesting for me. I liked the backstory, but I couldn't help but think Kate needed some of that too. They just want you to trust that she is that good at martial arts and archery. Compare it to the little they did with the Echo backstory scene. They actually showed you she learned how to read people, and how to fight.

    It's a little thing but, just seems weird in the same show 2 different approaches to show us training and skill levels.
    They did show Kate's training in the intro of the first episode. And there's also a clear difference in their skill levels.

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    I'm still waiting for them to talk about Clint's training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    If she was born deaf than I doubt she will talk. Talking when you can't hear yourself will sound very rough.



    It makes me want to see another team up between Hawkeye and Ant-Man.



    She sounds like a woman of culture



    I honestly don't see that being the relationship failure point for Clint and Kate. I see Clint telling Kate that he was Ronin as a means to get to her to stop idolizing him and turn her away from the hero life. How the show is going I'm not seeing what can cause their relationship to collapse
    This version of Clint Barton has been a Shield agent for years before becoming an Avenger. He's an assassin. He's always been an assassin.

    There's a reason why Clint is uncomfortable with the trappings of hero-dom. I don't think this Clint has ever seen himself as a hero. He can see it in others like Wanda and Scott Lang but not himself.

    His past is almost as dark as Nat's with the qualifier that he was always doing for Nick Fury so he was doing it for the good guys and everyone he killed had it coming by default. He likely thought ( and probably was) doing the same thing as Ronin.

    But even Shield would frown on unsanctioned killings by their people, let along the Avengers who don't go in for that kind of thing( we think).

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    I liked this episode a lot more than I thought I would.

    Clint talking to his kid with Kate's help was such a touching scene.

    I think Kate already suspects that Clint is/was Ronin. Her long pause before she says she thinks Ronin is someone close to Clint and that's why he protects their identity makes me think that. I could be wrong, of course.

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    "Are dragons real?" I take it you haven't seen Shang-Chi.
    But her Dad sure did. He knew they are in another dimension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Styles View Post
    Ah shit!

    Don't get your hopes up,it could be another bait and switch like Wandavision did with Quicksilver.

    Quote Originally Posted by CosmiComic View Post
    What if we end up with another FaWS where the antagonistic anti-hero is more interesting than the main hero?
    I doubt that. The antagonist was the weakest part of that show. She was poorly written. Her motivation was hazy at best. She was poorly acted. Maybe it was the direction she was given but she had zero charisma and I can't imagine anyone following her. I can't even remember the villains name without looking it up. The actress herself seems like she would be better doing dramas or comedies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Don't get your hopes up,it could be another bait and switch like Wandavision did with Quicksilver.
    That wasn't the show fault. Fans were letdown by their expectations when it came to Wanda vision. You can't blame Marvel for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Don't get your hopes up,it could be another bait and switch like Wandavision did with Quicksilver.



    I doubt that. The antagonist was the weakest part of that show. She was poorly written. Her motivation was hazy at best. She was poorly acted. Maybe it was the direction she was given but she had zero charisma and I can't imagine anyone following her. I can't even remember the villains name without looking it up. The actress herself seems like she would be better doing dramas or comedies.
    I assumed he was referencing John Walker there. Wyatt was a standout in that role as anti hero. Agree with you about Karli

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    This episode was the turning point for me. I like the show a lot more now.
    Every day is a gift, not a given right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avi View Post
    I think Kate already suspects that Clint is/was Ronin. Her long pause before she says she thinks Ronin is someone close to Clint and that's why he protects their identity makes me think that. I could be wrong, of course.
    I think it could go either way that she's waiting for Clint to be honest with her or she just thinks too much of him to immediately assume he's Ronin.

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    Watched the 3rd episode really enjoyed it. Some of the action scenes are a little clunky but I think the show more than makes up for it with the chemistry and individual personalities. Also enjoying the world building.

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