Hawkeye on Disney+

[AnakinFlair]

Now? Clint had a wife he confined everything to since Age of Ultron.

True, but this is the first time they are confirming that she was also an agent, and that she was Mockingbird.

I don't feel bad. They can always say that Agents of SHIELD existed in a different dimension, and that Adrienne Palacki's Mockingbird is a variant.

[j9ac9k]

I will buy he didn't want to flat out murder her. But if he can rip car doors off and survive getting hit by a car and then fighting her. I do not buy her beating him in that tight space without him just knocking her ass out at least. It jobs him as a character at this point her just starting out etc. that she can take him down. The only benefit is he was right back up and escaped to the Echo scene at the end.

Compare this to his brutal fight scenes in Daredevil. I mean at the end of Season 1 he is hand to hand with Daredevil, who is FAR better trained than Kate is shown to be. Now we don't know yet if it's the EXACT same character including everything from Daredevil. But imo so far why downgrade the character. It's a failure for me.

I get your point, but we've seen it a million times, when a much stronger opponent just throws the hero around rather than snap their necks. Plot armor abounds.

Also, in case anyone was wondering about Fisk's outfit:
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Amazing Spider-Man: Family Business #1. (an online review mentioned it and I would credit them, but I forgot which one it was...)

[ChrisIII]

Now? Clint had a wife he confined everything to since Age of Ultron.

But not equated with Mockingbird until now, apart from being Clint's wife, which Bobbi was for a while.

[phonogram12]

I get your point, but we've seen it a million times, when a much stronger opponent just throws the hero around rather than snap their necks. Plot armor abounds.

Also, in case anyone was wondering about Fisk's outfit:
spider-man-family-business-kingpin.jpg
Amazing Spider-Man: Family Business #1. (an online review mentioned it and I would credit them, but I forgot which one it was...)

Good point. I forgot about this. In addition to actual armor, though, I think people are forgetting that in the DD Netflix series, he did wear actual body armor. Sure it was in the lining of his blazers then, but he may have smartened up and had some designed as undershirts or something.

[80sbaby]

Well I don't think this reveal take anything away from AoS since Laura isn't Bobbi Morse. The code name can be used by more than one person and I don't remember Bobbi being referred to as Mockingbird at all in the show?

[phonogram12]

Well I don't think this reveal take anything away from AoS since Laura isn't Bobbi Morse. The code name can be used by more than one person and I don't remember Bobbi being referred to as Mockingbird at all in the show?

I don't think she was, but I could be wrong.

[hulahulk]

To my knowledge, Bobbi Morse was never referred to as Mockingbird or anything else besides Bobbi Morse on AOS. And AOS is MCU, is it not? I suppose Laura could be the live, retired version of Mockingbird -- and Bobbi Morse could have another designation.

Anyway, great show. The finale's action scenes were a bit of a stretch at times.

Yes, in the DD Netflix show, Kingpin did have armor designed into his wardrobe. No reason to dismiss that idea here.

[j9ac9k]

The only thing we can guess (and it's still a presumption because they didn't confirm it) is that she was "Agent 19." The Mockingbird name is still waiting to be used.

[chicago_bastard]

Which villain are you talking about?

That guy in WandaVision, Hayward or what his name was.

[Albert1981]

Sincere question: How long do you think it will take for Yelena to lose her accent? I can't imagine Pugh talking like she has for the rest of her tenure in the MCU. That would be torture!

[Immortal Weapon]

Sincere question: How long do you think it will take for Yelena to lose her accent? I can't imagine Pugh talking like she has for the rest of her tenure in the MCU. That would be torture!

I hope she never drops it. I enjoy the accent

[80sbaby]

Sincere question: How long do you think it will take for Yelena to lose her accent? I can't imagine Pugh talking like she has for the rest of her tenure in the MCU. That would be torture!

I doubt she ever will. It's just one of the things that seperates her from Natasha and, at this point, it's also a part of her charm/personality quirk.

[Emperor-of-Dragons]

Hawkeye was honestly bland and the appearance of Fisk was underwhelming. In hindsight, FATWS is probably the best of the Disney+ shows. It had it's faults too, like a muddled message that was sloppily done, and couldn't stick the landing. But It was still the better show tho.

[phonogram12]

So my order of preference is:

1.) WandaVision
2.) Hawkeye
3.) What If?
4.) Falcon & the Winter Soldier
5.) Loki

[j9ac9k]

Sincere question: How long do you think it will take for Yelena to lose her accent? I can't imagine Pugh talking like she has for the rest of her tenure in the MCU. That would be torture!

Or just acting. There are plenty of people on weekly tv shows that put on an accent as part of their character. I'm sure Pugh can manage it every couple years or however often we end up seeing Yalena.