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    Kathleen Kennedy not only co-produced the series along with her husband (who is also working on it) and Lucas, but she actually has a cameo in TEMPLE OF DOOM as one of the "Anything Goes" dancing girls when it goes full broadway (Given how they're all dressed the same it's kind of hard to figure out which one on screen is her from watching the movie, although there are some BTS pictures of her in costume with Spielberg goofing around).

    Up until given control of Lucasfilm, she was involved with almost every Spielberg film or production after "1941".
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Funny how people love to forget that she signed off on the stuff they loved, not just the stuff they hated.
    As long as she stays away that's perfectly fine. Let the people who know what they are doing cook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    As long as she stays away that's perfectly fine. Let the people who know what they are doing cook.
    Its worked gangbusters for the Mandalorian and it really reigniting interest in the Star Wars brand again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    As long as she stays away that's perfectly fine. Let the people who know what they are doing cook.
    When has she been hands on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    Indiana is not his name. His name is Henry Jr. Indiana is a nickname. And more than one person can have the same nickname.
    Oh, for heaven's sake, you- and everybody else- knew what I meant. Don't argue just for the sake or arguing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    I don't know anybody who's aware of Kennedy that thinks she's an entity that came out of nowhere. They know she was handpicked by Lucas when Disney took over. I'm sure she's a fine producer but she's been a fumbling as a studio head.
    Fumbling how? The Star Wars films did well financially with the exception of Solo, and the Mandalorian and the various cartoons have done great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Trail View Post
    Oh, for heaven's sake, you- and everybody else- knew what I meant. Don't argue just for the sake or arguing.
    I know what you meant, but I don't think you know what I meant.

    You are acting as if the concept of Legacy has never been addressed in the Indiana Jones canon and that Disney is unnaturally forcing this as a way to maximize profits while reducing the quality of the franchise.

    But the themes of legacy have been in the franchise long before Disney ever showed up.

    In Raiders, we see how Indy has a history with father figures like Brody and Ravenwood. Both men influenced Indy in his profession to the point where Brody even wishes he was younger so he could go on the adventures.

    In Temple of Doom, we see Indy working with and taking on a mentor role with Short Round.

    Last Crusade explicitly how the entire "Indiana Jones" look was inspired by another person when he was younger. The entire movie was about Indy's legacy from his father. That's why Sean Connery was cast in the role. That's why they revealed his name is actually Henry Jones Junior. That's why the movie establishes that he took the pre existing name Indiana for himself.

    The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles was all about how the people and places Indy went as a kid influenced who he would be as an adult. The original broadcast even had an elderly Indiana Jones relating the events to a younger audience.

    Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was the most explicit by bringing back Marion and introducing their son. Named Henry after his father, who takes a dog related nickname. The final shot even teased his son could take up the iconic hat in the future.

    Not only do the movies focus on his relationships with his father and other mentors, they also focus on him dealing with and guiding younger characters including his own son.

    The very name "Indiana Jones" is a reflection of the Legacy. "Indiana" is the chosen name taken from his beloved dog that reflects the life of an adventurous archeologist. This is the side that learned from Brody and Ravenwood. This is the side that worked with Short Round and Mutt. Jones is the family name that is passed from father to son. He shares his name with his professor father. And despite the emotional distance between them, Indy still went into a similar field of study and shared friends like Marcus Brody. If Indy had stayed with Marion, his son would have been Henry Jones III.


    I'm not trying to nit pick or score cheap points. But when you write something like

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Trail View Post
    It's his name, not a title. If they want to do a spinoff series that's one thing but she isn't "Indiana Jones."
    You are not only ignoring the themes of legacy, you are also 100% wrong according the the canon.

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    Marcus also had a history with Indy's father (It's implied they're old classmates in particular). It's too bad Young Indy, apart from a novel, didn't really go into that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    I know what you meant, but I don't think you know what I meant.

    You are acting as if the concept of Legacy has never been addressed in the Indiana Jones canon and that Disney is unnaturally forcing this as a way to maximize profits while reducing the quality of the franchise.

    But the themes of legacy have been in the franchise long before Disney ever showed up.

    In Raiders, we see how Indy has a history with father figures like Brody and Ravenwood. Both men influenced Indy in his profession to the point where Brody even wishes he was younger so he could go on the adventures.

    In Temple of Doom, we see Indy working with and taking on a mentor role with Short Round.

    Last Crusade explicitly how the entire "Indiana Jones" look was inspired by another person when he was younger. The entire movie was about Indy's legacy from his father. That's why Sean Connery was cast in the role. That's why they revealed his name is actually Henry Jones Junior. That's why the movie establishes that he took the pre existing name Indiana for himself.

    The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles was all about how the people and places Indy went as a kid influenced who he would be as an adult. The original broadcast even had an elderly Indiana Jones relating the events to a younger audience.

    Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was the most explicit by bringing back Marion and introducing their son. Named Henry after his father, who takes a dog related nickname. The final shot even teased his son could take up the iconic hat in the future.

    Not only do the movies focus on his relationships with his father and other mentors, they also focus on him dealing with and guiding younger characters including his own son.

    The very name "Indiana Jones" is a reflection of the Legacy. "Indiana" is the chosen name taken from his beloved dog that reflects the life of an adventurous archeologist. This is the side that learned from Brody and Ravenwood. This is the side that worked with Short Round and Mutt. Jones is the family name that is passed from father to son. He shares his name with his professor father. And despite the emotional distance between them, Indy still went into a similar field of study and shared friends like Marcus Brody. If Indy had stayed with Marion, his son would have been Henry Jones III.


    I'm not trying to nit pick or score cheap points. But when you write something like



    You are not only ignoring the themes of legacy, you are also 100% wrong according the the canon.
    By your logic, Henry should have taken the name "Abner" to carry on the legacy.

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    Indiana takes things from a lot of different people and different influences. His past and those around him help shape him him into what he is and he chooses a name to separate himself from his father and forge his own path.

    That a HUGE difference from a person just deciding their going to be the next Indiana Jones and do exactly what he did.

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    It's kind of unclear how well the characters know each other or how long she's been an assistant (if she is). Wonder if she's his secretary, we do see one in Last Crusade (Irene) but she'd probably have moved on by now.

    Makes you wonder if he'll still be at the school as well; he did get promoted to Assistant Dean (presumably he somehow managed to clear his name despite their being little left of Irina and her group; guess he might've used Oxley and Marion's testimony or something like that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Trail View Post
    By your logic, Henry should have taken the name "Abner" to carry on the legacy.
    How could you possibly have gotten that from what they posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Indiana takes things from a lot of different people and different influences. His past and those around him help shape him him into what he is and he chooses a name to separate himself from his father and forge his own path.

    That a HUGE difference from a person just deciding their going to be the next Indiana Jones and do exactly what he did.
    Here's the thing. Harrison Ford is doing a new Indiana Jones movie and he is 79 years old. He is not going to be doing the huge action pieces like he did 40 years ago. Even Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had Shia Labeouf taking some of the load. The idea of a swan song where he "passes the torch" to a younger character is the most likely thing to happen.

    That is a HUGE difference from a person just deciding they're going to be the next Indiana Jones and do exactly what he did.
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    I still think they're going to recast but not reboot, and have the new Indy just doing stories from his life that the movies haven't covered yet. (Still think Chris Pratt would be perfect.) Sure, there would be a loss of stakes... we know Indy can't die in any of these movies... but come on, he's a pulp hero. He was never going to die anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewCrossett View Post
    I still think they're going to recast but not reboot, and have the new Indy just doing stories from his life that the movies haven't covered yet. (Still think Chris Pratt would be perfect.) Sure, there would be a loss of stakes... we know Indy can't die in any of these movies... but come on, he's a pulp hero. He was never going to die anyway.
    I think Harrison Ford is too iconic for an audience to accept a recast of the character. It's one thing to cast River Phoenix as teen Indy, but Indy in his prime is too irreplaceable.

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