Turning Points Marvel's Using Again And Again...

[Minerboh]

In this thread let's presents tropes, themes and turning points that we think Marvel's overusing.

Asgard get's destroyed.
The X-Mansion is destroyed, deserted of a time and then get's reopened.
Spider-Man's inability to get a clear victory from his battles with his rogue gallery.
Thor's hammer shatters.
Tony Stark facing a health situation.
Endie Brock get's seperated from the Venom symbiote.
Charles Xavier regaining his ability to walk.

Feel free to add your suggestions.

[gurkle]

Ben Grimm gets cured of being the Thing.
Johnny Storm learns to act more mature.
The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver learn the truth about who their parents were.

[Chris0013]

The hero is sick and their powers are failing.

[Nomads1]

Cap's "indestructable" shield shatters.
Cap becomes dilusioned with America, someone else becomes Captain America.
The Avengers change the guard.
Iron Man upgrades his armor.
Wolverine's healing factor starts to fail.
Mind here, these are cliche turning points at Marvel, doesn't mean that good stories can't come out of them.

Peace

[Chris0013]

Cap's "indestructable" shield shatters.
Cap becomes dilusioned with America, someone else becomes Captain America.
The Avengers change the guard.
Iron Man upgrades his armor.
Wolverine's healing factor starts to fail.
Mind here, these are cliche turning points at Marvel, doesn't mean that good stories can't come out of them.

Peace

I think with the both the Nomad storyline and the Captain storyline it was well done with regards to Cap giving it up.

[H-E-D]

Tony seems to lose and regain his fortune... a lot.

[krazijoe]

Prof x is dead and alive and dead and alive...

[Frontier]

Thor isn't worthy.

[K7P5V]

Secret identity is blown. Matt's life is destroyed. Kingpin triumphant.

[Chris0013]

Secret identity is blown. Matt's life is destroyed. Kingpin triumphant.

I hate that one most of all...because they have to find a way to get the ID secret again. Then you have deals with the devil or global mind control.

[ChrisIII]

Hulk getting cured, or alternatively, Banner having a degree of control over the Hulk's body (Or thinking he does).


Magneto getting retconned as a robot (During the first Polaris story?), clone (Joseph) or another mutant entirely (Xorn)

[babyblob]

Peter has some moral crisis about someone he failed to save/couldnt save.

Xmen vs Avengers in a this will change everything event/Xmen vs The Marvel Universe in a this changes everything event.

[Exciter]

The Hulk has a Hulk of his own and/or Banner was the monster all along!
A powerful bad guy has a vendetta against gods and wants to wipe them all out!

[babyblob]

The New Friend/coworker/boss/neighbor is really the big bad all along.

[Omega Alpha]

Jean Grey is the Phoenix. No, she's not. She hates the Phoenix. No she does not. The Phoenix and Jean are two completely separate entities. No, they are not.

Atlantis is destroyed/is rebuilt/Namor is the king/Namor is banned from it forever

Iron Man upgrades his armor.

To be fair, that's a natural development with a technology based superhero.