X-Men Monday #125 – Jonathan Hickman Reflects

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X-Men Monday #125 – Jonathan Hickman Reflects on the ‘X-Men Experiment’ and Teases the ‘Amazing’ Stories to Come

https://aiptcomics.com/2021/09/20/x-...athan-hickman/

[Hi-Fi]

Rogue cut from Inferno and not being a part of Mystique/Destiny's resolution is the stuff nightmares are made of.

[Kingdom X]

We love an honest king. That feeling of stagnation wasn’t just fans being picky.

One, I believe we needed a broader aesthetic. A bigger artistic umbrella. That’s something we perhaps could have controlled a little better.

Two, I think we needed to maintain a more relentless velocity. Narrative rhythm is good — necessary, I think, in the individual titles — but with a line as big as ours, the whole thing still has to feel like a freight train. The pandemic really screwed us there, and along with other complications, it’s taken us until now to get everything back on track. So, while some might think that’s one we deserve some grace on, I’d probably argue that grace isn’t something you get to ask for in a financial exchange.

But, overall, I think it’s worked well. I’d give us a ‘B.’

[Omega Alpha]

We love an honest king. That feeling of stagnation wasn’t just fans being picky.

Isn't that the reason Hickman wanted to leave? He wanted to move on to the next stage, writers and editors didn't.

[Kingdom X]

Isn't that the reason Hickman wanted to leave? He wanted to move on to the next stage, writers and editors didn't.

I think it’s more than that though. You can stay in the same status quo without dedicating issues upon issues to dealing with the same problems (looking at you plant monsters and Shadow King). Like someone mentioned earlier it did help when the books came out more frequently.

[Frobisher]

Isn't that the reason Hickman wanted to leave? He wanted to move on to the next stage, writers and editors didn't.

Read between the lines and it's Marvel editorial who are moving him on to a new project. Hickman is a star player and they want him working on big projects and events, not pootling along on monthly titles on story arcs that will now potentially span years. If Marvel were ok with it you'd think it would be pretty tempting for him to take a hands-off role as the Head Of X, taking a pay cheque to oversee the line for a few years while having plenty of time to concentrate on Creator-Owned work.

[NewMutant]

Obviously I don't know how Inferno plays out but Rogue (and Nightcrawler) could easily be dealt with post event. We also never got the Moira title or any sort of reunion with her and Proteus or Banshee.

[Confuzzled]

We love an honest king. That feeling of stagnation wasn’t just fans being picky.

So, while some might think that’s one we deserve some grace on, I’d probably argue that grace isn’t something you get to ask for in a financial exchange.

Bruh chill and cut yourself some slack. The world came to a literal standstill. Also not your fault some of your co-writers weren't capable enough.

Damn though, with that mindset I'm sure he's pretty popular with all the business suits.

[Jackraow21]

Rogue cut from Inferno and not being a part of Mystique/Destiny's resolution is the stuff nightmares are made of.

Yeah, that’s a huge bummer for Rogue fans. And definitely feels like an important part of the story to cut out IMO, considering the relationship. I suppose it makes for a tighter Mystique/Destiny story, but with clearly so much else that’s going to be packed into Inferno (including a lot of Orchis/Nimrod stuff with them fighting X-Force as per the preview art) it just seems to me that they could’ve found a way to include the Rogue elements. Or at least a condensed version of those story beats.

[Kingdom X]

Yeah, that’s a huge bummer for Rogue fans. And definitely feels like an important part of the story to cut out IMO, considering the relationship. I suppose it makes for a tighter Mystique/Destiny story, but with clearly so much else that’s going to be packed into Inferno (including a lot of Orchis/Nimrod stuff with them fighting X-Force as per the preview art) it just seems to me that they could’ve found a way to include the Rogue elements. Or at least a condensed version of those story beats.

Yeah this is rough. Maybe X-Men Unlimited could have been cut Rogue stuff instead of a Wolverine adventure.

[Jackraow21]

Yeah this is rough. Maybe X-Men Unlimited could have been cut Rogue stuff instead of a Wolverine adventure.

Those issues are done. Who’s to say they couldn’t do Rogue next? Nothing stopping them. Hickman choosing to do a Logan story didn’t preclude him or anyone else from doing a Rogue story next. Just saying.

[Kingdom X]

Those issues are done. Who’s to say they couldn’t do Rogue next? Nothing stopping them. Hickman choosing to do a Logan story didn’t preclude him or anyone else from doing a Rogue story next. Just saying.

Very true! Fingers crossed we get to see some of those stories explored elsewhere.

[Hi-Fi]

Yeah, that’s a huge bummer for Rogue fans. And definitely feels like an important part of the story to cut out IMO, considering the relationship. I suppose it makes for a tighter Mystique/Destiny story, but with clearly so much else that’s going to be packed into Inferno (including a lot of Orchis/Nimrod stuff with them fighting X-Force as per the preview art) it just seems to me that they could’ve found a way to include the Rogue elements. Or at least a condensed version of those story beats.

The high concept has always been more important than the emotional beats in this run, so it doesn't really surprise me. But it really is a bummer.

[RamaBird]

Wow Rogue cut from Destiny/Mystique's big storyline? That's messed up. Yet the lame as hell and useless to boot XFORCE gets a story?

[Master of Sound]

AIPT: As we wrap up, is there any story beat or character you regret you didn’t get around to working on?

Jonathan: Character-wise, I had to pull all the Rogue stuff out of Inferno and I’m pretty bummed about that. We just didn’t have the real estate.

This is bad, really bad. Rogue should get a big part as Inferno is about her two mothers. Bad bad bad.

Overall, there were a couple of concepts that either didn’t work out (one was going to be a Children of the Vault book, another was an Imperial Guard thing,

Really??? OMG I would have LOVED both!!! I am getting slowly VERY upset

So Rogue in a big role, a Children of the Vault series and something big with the Imperial Guard, all down the drain.