What the heck is up with Frog-man??

[Dermie]

Roderick Kingsley was operating a business were he was selling superhero and villain identities to new users -- some of which were still in use, so there are duplicate versions of multiple characters running around these days due to that. The villain Frog Man/Leap Frog is likely one of them.

There are plenty of them running around -- Kingsley has a male Beetle; a Water Wizard (the original is now Aquaduct); a Bruin (who wears a copy of Grizzly's suit); Ringer; Razorback; D-Man; etc. For some of them it is obvious which one is a Kingsley client, since they are wearing an outdated version of the costume, or the original has changed their codename, etc, but there are several out there that you just can't tell at a glance if it is the original or a Kingsley client unless they give themselves away in dialogue.

[Dreaded Porcupine]

Roderick Kingsley was operating a business were he was selling superhero and villain identities to new users -- some of which were still in use, so there are duplicate versions of multiple characters running around these days due to that. The villain Frog Man/Leap Frog is likely one of them.

There are plenty of them running around -- Kingsley has a male Beetle; a Water Wizard (the original is now Aquaduct); a Bruin (who wears a copy of Grizzly's suit); Ringer; Razorback; D-Man; etc. For some of them it is obvious which one is a Kingsley client, since they are wearing an outdated version of the costume, or the original has changed their codename, etc, but there are several out there that you just can't tell at a glance if it is the original or a Kingsley client unless they give themselves away in dialogue.

Didn’t Spider-Woman and the Porcupine (a former client of Kingsley who double crossed him) bring him down? Was Kingsley in ASM? There were so many villains it was hard to keep up.

[Chris0013]

Didn’t Spider-Woman and the Porcupine (a former client of Kingsley who double crossed him) bring him down? Was Kingsley in ASM? There were so many villains it was hard to keep up.

I don't think they ever brought him down...just smacked around a lot of his franchisees and Kingsley himself. Which was a great storyline that when they rebooted was not looked at again.

[Dermie]

Didn’t Spider-Woman and the Porcupine (a former client of Kingsley who double crossed him) bring him down? Was Kingsley in ASM? There were so many villains it was hard to keep up.

Kingsley is still active, and even if he weren't the people he had already given costumes/identities to are still out there and have continued to pop up.

At some point I would like to see something done to help make it easier to tell which ones are the originals and which ones are the Kingsley clients who purchased other people's identities, or just eliminate the ones who are redundant.

[FrogMan]

He is retired. And I've seen nothing anywhere to indicate that he's gone bad again. And I have every appearance of Frog-man.

If it is indeed Buford appearing in these other comics, Marvel needs to SAY it is him.

[FrogMan]

Roderick Kingsley was operating a business were he was selling superhero and villain identities to new users -- some of which were still in use, so there are duplicate versions of multiple characters running around these days due to that. The villain Frog Man/Leap Frog is likely one of them.

There are plenty of them running around -- Kingsley has a male Beetle; a Water Wizard (the original is now Aquaduct); a Bruin (who wears a copy of Grizzly's suit); Ringer; Razorback; D-Man; etc. For some of them it is obvious which one is a Kingsley client, since they are wearing an outdated version of the costume, or the original has changed their codename, etc, but there are several out there that you just can't tell at a glance if it is the original or a Kingsley client unless they give themselves away in dialogue.

What comic is this in?

[Chris0013]

What comic is this in?

That has been shown in a lot of comics...and was a big part of the Spider-Woman series by Hallum that brought in Porcupine who is one of the franchisees.

[Brian B]

There are shades of green in everyone.

“It’s not easy bein’ green.”

[Dermie]

That has been shown in a lot of comics...and was a big part of the Spider-Woman series by Hallum that brought in Porcupine who is one of the franchisees.

Yep, that volume of SPIDER-WOMAN dealt with it quite a bit. I believe it was during Dan Slott's AMAZING SPIDER-MAN run that Kinsgley's super-villain franchise operation was first introduced. It also played a big part in the AXIS: HOBGOBLIN miniseries, where Kingsley was temporarily inverted into being a hero and switched to setting up new people with heroic identities and roles.

The people who purchased these franchised identities pop up all over the Marvel universe though. Queen Cat has made some appearances in the current BLACK CAT series, and Water Wizard made a cameo there. I think a number of them have at least cameod in the current AMAZING SPIDER-MAN run. Back when there was still a SILK ongoing series, I remember the male Beetle turning up there as part of Black Cat's criminal army. Etc, etc.

Since there has never been any comprehensive list of how many of these franchise characters are out there or what identities they all have, its hard to say for sure how many of them have popped up in what titles.

[Milk Tray Man]

“It’s not easy bein’ green.”

That's newts to me.

[FrogMan]

Can someone tell me if Frog-man has an appearance in Miles Morales: Spider-man #30. His list of appearances online lists that he's in that issue.

[Lonewolf36]

Can someone tell me if Frog-man has an appearance in Miles Morales: Spider-man #30. His list of appearances online lists that he's in that issue.

Yes

[CaptCleghorn]

Yes

He's talking about all those hot dog vendors like that's a problem.

[Gaastra]

Kind of surprised they didn't make a female frog girl yet as one of the new frog men. My hero academia frog girl is pretty loved by fans.

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[Lonewolf36]

Kind of surprised they didn't make a female frog girl yet as one of the new frog men. My hero academia frog girl is pretty loved by fans.

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They at least gave him a wannabe sidekick Tadpole.