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    TheBookDragon vs Siriel


    A Time Crisis
    Leech will be moving as fast as he can with the Speed Serum to activate the Hypertime Watch. Allowing him to enter Hyper-Hyper-Time, meaning that he was moving at blur speed to people that were perceiving time as standing still. This should give him a chance to match or even go faster then the people using flash speed boosters. (Eli, Paige)

    Leech will dash across the battle field without having a problem, because anyone in his way will pass through (Leech is able to be intangible) or can easily be evaded. This should stop Eli, or Paige from stopping him from reaching Sylar where he will take the time stone. (I don’t recall anyone using the time stone to get enhanced time sense.) Then he will rewind time on all of the enemies are back at there starting position. This will also unmake any clones that Eli has made, Also rewinding any moves that Barbas has made, allowing Leech to walk over and swipe the Reality Stone.

    With both stones he will move back over to his team and start accelerating them to Hyper-time speeds. While constantly rewinding the other team leaving them trapped like bugs in tree sap.

    Once my team is ready then, Shelob will touch everyone of the enemies and teleport them a few hundred years into the future, and onto the moon.

    Alternative Reality (Leech fails to get the time stone)
    If Leech fails to get the time stone then several factors will have to be assumed. Sylar has a way to move at super speed or a super speed took the time stone away first, or she was teleported somewhere that Leech can’t easily detect it. At this point he will move back to his team and speed them all up.

    With everyone going at Hyper-Time, we will move to battle the other team.

    Alternative Reality Shelob

    Once Shelob’s speed is increased, it will work to link minds, coordinating the team to work together, and not get in each other’s way. It will also teleport to the enemies and make physical contact and teleport them away. Mostly dropping them off at the moon, but Barbas, Captain Marvel and Paige will need to be grabbed at the same time so they can be dropped into the distant future on the moon. If this isn’t possible then Captain Marvel and Paige are higher priorities.

    Alternative Reality - Godzilla VS. Charlie
    Godzilla will be moving to battle Charlie. His Ghost Rider powers should give him some fire immunity, and Godzilla should be able to rain down Atomic Blasts blowing up buildings and her, and the attacks and should be more then can easily be stopped by Terrigenesis upgrade, Daisy.

    At the same time the AT-M6 will be firing around to keep any of the other enemies, and random humans away.

    Alternative Reality - Smaug VS. Emma Frost
    Smaug will blast Emma with mental blast and dragon fire hard enough for her to go to diamond form, though even diamond burn when they get hot enough.

    Alternative Reality - Indominus Rex
    Indominus Rex will have the task of tracking down Barbas and Paige to drain there magic, and eat them. This might not stop them completely but being magicless and eaten should make it difficult to do much. (I doubt that the TVA Time Twister Collar would return someone’s magic if it was absorbed)

    If it can’t detect either of them it will start paralyzing enemies (using the power of Jafar's Snake Staff) then absorbing them (using the power of Jumanji). Until Barbas or Paige show up close enough to detect.

    Alternative Reality – Xenomorph + Blue + Skullcrawler VS Eli + Eli Clones
    Xenomorph, Blue, and the Skullcrawler will be fighting to contain the Eli’s as best they can. Though Eli and his clones are a little out of there league, they should be able to inflict some damage.

    Alternative Reality – Kong VS Sylar
    Kong will use his internet data and his Thinking Cap to predict where Sylar is and teleport there. (internet data would also contain things like maps so finding Sylar would be easier then normal) once he has him he will snatch the Time Stone, then grab the Vest and shake until Sylar falls out, or the vest splits and comes off. Then Kong can blast Sylar into the ground with eye beams until he dies.

    Alternative Reality Leech
    Leech will move to quickly fight Captain Marvel. With his intangibility, speed, and Leviathan powers he should be able to kill her by stabbing her in the chest and filling her with Leviathan blood. (negating her super stats)

    Surprisingly Castiel will be deemed a low priority for Leech because Castiel’s angelic powers will be mitigated do to the Leviathan possession. So if Castiel tries to interfere with any of Leech’s fights then he will be killed, but if not then Leech will hunt him down after he deals with Captain Marvel.

    Alternative Reality – Eli + Eli Clones

    If there are to many Eli Clones to teleport to the moon, or Shelob teleported out of the time to deal with the other, then GodzillaWill use soul fire to attack there souls bypassing their physical defenses. Also Kong will attempt to steal their Magneto's Helmet and beat them with it (using a god’s relic to kill a god). Leech’s Leviathan possession may weaken the divine power so he will also be trying to stab then with his hands and fill them with black goo, or bite them in two.

    Final Points
    As the enemies fall then my team can focus on gathering and using more team work to defeat their opponents.

    My team is smart, tactical, mentally communicating, and well organized. They are all fighters, and will fight there hardest, Hunters able to track their targets, resilient with the ability to heal, and If there is something wrong they will improvise.

    And Kong will have predicted many likely strategies and relayed them to the others through Shelob before she left.
    And with that the rest of the Domino's will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

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    Team Siriel Stratagy

    At the beginning of the battle, Eli will run into the safe place during a giant monster invasion - the nearest tunnel. It's impossible for almost the entire enemy team to fit in there, so it would leave him pretty much completely safe. Then he just has to keep away from the tremors caused by the giant monsters above and continuously replicate himself, sending his ocpies up to engage the enemy team. Even in the event that the tunnel collapse, he should be just fine to get away given his speed, and even if he wasn't he's strong enough to throw off any debris on him.

    Paige will begin the battle by teleporting in the vicinity of the enemy team (they shouldn't exactly be hard to find) and orb the TVA collar around Leech's neck. While movie Leech negates the powers of mutants around him, this is arguably different from magic but more importantly he has no showings of negating powers used from outside his range. Then she can just send him back to the past with the remote, ringing him out, and teleport away in the opposite direction from the rest of my team. Given her speed advantage, the assorted giant monsters shouldn't be able to find and attack her in time during this.

    Castiel is on Emma safeguarding duties again, and will teleport her a safe distance to the West while she engages and crushes Shelob in a battle of the minds. The drugs might make the spider super intelligent, but given the sheer difference in power. it shouldn't matter, especially given that Shelob will be distracted by the mutations occurring as a result of her items.

    Barbas will begin the battle by turning intangible, then teleporting to a skyscraper to the East of the enemy team and turn Smaug into a golden statue for maximum irony using the Reality Stone.

    For once, Charlie won't be used to alpha strike the enemy team - instead she'll direct her first stream of energy toward Captain Marvel, who'll absorb him and then fly off at superspeed to ram into King Kong's head at incredible speeds. This should cause a blow powerful enough to knock him out given that adamantium does nothing to soften impacts.
    While doing this Charlie will keep an eye out for any unusual vibrations that might indicate the presence of a stealthed enemy.

    Sylar meanwhile will open by using the time stone on Charlie to drastically accelerate her time as much as possible, allowing her powers plenty of time to ramp up to outrageous propoertions.

    Taken out: King Kong, Smaug, Shelob, Leech.

    With half the enemy team taken out, the biggest threat to my team left is the Hollow held by the Indomitus Rex. This is why Paige will teleport back in on top of a different skyscraper and chant the spell to banish the Hollow; a variant that only requires the Power of Three appeared in the finale, and she currently has that in herself.

    The Eli mob by now should have reached a tipping point of being an unstoppable wave of superpowered bricks, swarming down the enemy with their combination of superspeed and absurd strength while Eli Prime remains perfectly safe away from the battlefield underground.

    Sylar will fly up into the air with Nathan's power, sticking to around the top of skyscrapers and remaining hidden from the battle; his mission is to restore any of my team members if the worst happens to them. He should notice because most of them wouldn't go down quietly, and see below.

    With the only enemy telepath out of the way, Emma will turn her powers on the largest remaining enemy (presumably Godzilla) and take control of him to attack his own team. She'll also keep an 'eye' out for my team members to inform Sylar if anything happens to them. Castiel meanwhile will teleport her away from any threat that approaches.

    Captain Marvel after knocking out King Kong will turn her eyes to either Shelob (if she's somehow still active) or the Skullcrawler, coming down on it like a superpowered brick and throwing it into Blue before brawling with both of them.

    Barbas will silently watch the chaos from afar and select any targets that he deems troublesome and spawning whatever enemies or hypothetical beings they most fear to battle them. He could already do this with his original powers, and the Reality Stone should make it much easier. He won't target the Indomitus Rex, just in case.

    Ascended to an extreme level of power thanks to Sylar and her items, the time has come for Charlie to advance and annihilate any enemy in her way - thanks to the Phoenix she has nothing to fear from her own powers no matter how intense they get, and thanks to Quake's powers the various stealth abilities of the enemy team won't hide them from her. With most of the enemy team being some form of gigantic or at least decently large, she should have no problem finding targets for her flames.

    Taken out: The entire enemy team, in theory. If anyone survives, my team will continue to use their aforementioned methods to defeat them, with Paige switching to a support role by teleporting my team around.

    Contingency: If anyone on the enemy team tries to teleport away then Emma, Charlie and Paige should all be able to locate them.
    And with that the rest of the Domino's will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Drizzle View Post
    At the beginning of the battle, Eli will run into the safe place during a giant monster invasion - the nearest tunnel. It's impossible for almost the entire enemy team to fit in there, so it would leave him pretty much completely safe. Then he just has to keep away from the tremors caused by the giant monsters above and continuously replicate himself, sending his ocpies up to engage the enemy team. Even in the event that the tunnel collapse, he should be just fine to get away given his speed, and even if he wasn't he's strong enough to throw off any debris on him.
    I actually love that move simple but really smart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Drizzle View Post
    Paige will begin the battle by teleporting in the vicinity of the enemy team (they shouldn't exactly be hard to find) and orb the TVA collar around Leech's neck. While movie Leech negates the powers of mutants around him, this is arguably different from magic but more importantly he has no showings of negating powers used from outside his range. Then she can just send him back to the past with the remote, ringing him out, and teleport away in the opposite direction from the rest of my team. Given her speed advantage, the assorted giant monsters shouldn't be able to find and attack her in time during this.
    This might have been my team undoing if the TVA collar could be bound to Leech's neck that easily. There are two flaw with the idea that I see.

    One how often did Paige orb an object on to a moving target, at her own moving speed or someone moving faster? Plus the collar’s needed to be tightened to properly fit.

    Two Leech is moving fast enough to move through solid objects, meaning that an orbed color would fall right were he was but not latch on to him.

    Thunder Force Speed Serum + The Hypertime Watch means that leech can move fast enough to move through solid objects

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    Sylar meanwhile will open by using the time stone on Charlie to drastically accelerate her time as much as possible, allowing her powers plenty of time to ramp up to outrageous propoertions.
    Sylar who isn’t moving at superspeed, is opening move is to boost Charlie’s speed. This means that Sylar doesn’t have a hope of noticing Leech steal the time stone.

    If Leech steal the time stone then he will rewind everyone to their opening positions and they can all be time warped away.




    Sorry this is a bit rushed. Good Match

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Drizzle View Post
    A Time Crisis
    Leech will be moving as fast as he can with the Speed Serum to activate the Hypertime Watch. Allowing him to enter Hyper-Hyper-Time, meaning that he was moving at blur speed to people that were perceiving time as standing still. This should give him a chance to match or even go faster then the people using flash speed boosters. (Eli, Paige)
    I've touched on it before, but not everything was stopped when the watch was in use - insect wings were still beating and the likes. It was certainly very fast by regular standards, but not nearly as fast as many of the time stop-style speedsters. Even stacked with another blur-speed amp I'm dubious of it matching Flash speeds.

    So I'd argue that Paige can still collar him fine. I don't think it's too big an issue even if someone disagrees though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Drizzle View Post
    Leech will dash across the battle field without having a problem, because anyone in his way will pass through (Leech is able to be intangible) or can easily be evaded. This should stop Eli, or Paige from stopping him from reaching Sylar where he will take the time stone. (I don’t recall anyone using the time stone to get enhanced time sense.) Then he will rewind time on all of the enemies are back at there starting position. This will also unmake any clones that Eli has made, Also rewinding any moves that Barbas has made, allowing Leech to walk over and swipe the Reality Stone.

    With both stones he will move back over to his team and start accelerating them to Hyper-time speeds. While constantly rewinding the other team leaving them trapped like bugs in tree sap.
    Good luck to Leech finding my team before Captain Marvel launches since what's left there would only be three human-sized people in a New York that's going to be pretty panicky with all those giant monsters appearing. And in case someone wonders, Charlie's heat powers are largely invisible until they hit something, and with Carol absorbing what she produces there wouldn't be any huge flames.

    Finally, Leech wouldn't know how to use the Time Stone even if he did get it. He's not an innate genius like Sylar, he's just a kid who got a specific power. And the leviathans don't have any more experience dealing with that kind of stuff and demonstrably weren't super geniuses either.

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    Alternative Reality (Leech fails to get the time stone)
    If Leech fails to get the time stone then several factors will have to be assumed. Sylar has a way to move at super speed or a super speed took the time stone away first, or she was teleported somewhere that Leech can’t easily detect it. At this point he will move back to his team and speed them all up.

    With everyone going at Hyper-Time, we will move to battle the other team.
    So the team only really starts going after Leech's crossed 4 kilometers twice over? And finds three people in a massive city with only a rough direction to go with? That's a pretty delayed strategy.

    Ironically it might actually be better for them if Paige gets Leech, since at least they'd know not to wait then.

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    Once Shelob’s speed is increased, it will work to link minds, coordinating the team to work together, and not get in each other’s way. It will also teleport to the enemies and make physical contact and teleport them away. Mostly dropping them off at the moon, but Barbas, Captain Marvel and Paige will need to be grabbed at the same time so they can be dropped into the distant future on the moon. If this isn’t possible then Captain Marvel and Paige are higher priorities.
    Only when it's speed is increased does this start apparently.

    Incidentally, the mindlink should make Emma's job easier. And for the record, Paige has a spell to return to her own time. More than one even. So even if she was somehow touched by a very slow spider, she could just come back since the League rules only stop us from changing the past, not from coming back from the future.

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    Alternative Reality - Godzilla VS. Charlie
    Godzilla will be moving to battle Charlie. His Ghost Rider powers should give him some fire immunity, and Godzilla should be able to rain down Atomic Blasts blowing up buildings and her, and the attacks and should be more then can easily be stopped by Terrigenesis upgrade, Daisy.
    How good is that Godzilla's range and aim? He needs to hit a specific spot 4km away before Charlie is boosted by Sylar.

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    Alternative Reality - Smaug VS. Emma Frost
    Smaug will blast Emma with mental blast and dragon fire hard enough for her to go to diamond form, though even diamond burn when they get hot enough.
    He has no way to find Emma, especially after Castiel teleports her.

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    Alternative Reality - Indominus Rex
    Indominus Rex will have the task of tracking down Barbas and Paige to drain there magic, and eat them. This might not stop them completely but being magicless and eaten should make it difficult to do much. (I doubt that the TVA Time Twister Collar would return someone’s magic if it was absorbed)

    If it can’t detect either of them it will start paralyzing enemies (using the power of Jafar's Snake Staff) then absorbing them (using the power of Jumanji). Until Barbas or Paige show up close enough to detect.
    Too bad Paige can banish the Hollow.

    So even if it somehow manages to track her down, that just makes it easier for her to accomplish her second task.

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    Alternative Reality – Xenomorph + Blue + Skullcrawler VS Eli + Eli Clones
    Xenomorph, Blue, and the Skullcrawler will be fighting to contain the Eli’s as best they can. Though Eli and his clones are a little out of there league, they should be able to inflict some damage.
    They'll be swarmed fast, but fair enough.

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    Alternative Reality – Kong VS Sylar
    Kong will use his internet data and his Thinking Cap to predict where Sylar is and teleport there. (internet data would also contain things like maps so finding Sylar would be easier then normal) once he has him he will snatch the Time Stone, then grab the Vest and shake until Sylar falls out, or the vest splits and comes off. Then Kong can blast Sylar into the ground with eye beams until he dies.
    KO'd by Captain Marvel, teleporting over would just make that easier to achieve.

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    Alternative Reality Leech
    Leech will move to quickly fight Captain Marvel. With his intangibility, speed, and Leviathan powers he should be able to kill her by stabbing her in the chest and filling her with Leviathan blood. (negating her super stats)
    What is he stabbing her with? The Leviathans didn't have the stats to punch through her durability as far as I recall, and the watch intangibility wasn't of the selective kind that can phase partially through people.

    Not that it matters a whole lot since Leech has so much to do in this strategy that he'll never get to this point in a relevant amount of time. Nor does he have a way to reach her after she starts flying as far as I can tell.

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    Alternative Reality – Eli + Eli Clones

    If there are to many Eli Clones to teleport to the moon, or Shelob teleported out of the time to deal with the other, then GodzillaWill use soul fire to attack there souls bypassing their physical defenses. Also Kong will attempt to steal their Magneto's Helmet and beat them with it (using a god’s relic to kill a god). Leech’s Leviathan possession may weaken the divine power so he will also be trying to stab then with his hands and fill them with black goo, or bite them in two.
    All the Elis are Flashes though, so I'm not sure how realistic this all is.

    Not that it matters too much. Trying to deal with a replicator by fighting his clones is a poor strategy. Even if they did manage to deal with a few Elis, more would come, and with their stats they only need a few good hits to start taking down the enemy team.

    In summary:

    Eli is poorly dealt with so he should be able to swarm the enemy team. Emma is only targeted by a dragon that has no way to find her so she's free to beat the enemy team with telepathy. Paige is only targeted by something that even if it worked she could return from.

    And the entire strategy revolves around Leech running 4 kilometers, finding my team, coming back to his team and giving them superspeed. Even if Paige failed to take him out for some reason, that's quite the waiting time while my team does stuff.
    Last edited by Siriel; 09-29-2021 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBookDragon View Post
    One how often did Paige orb an object on to a moving target, at her own moving speed or someone moving faster? Plus the collar’s needed to be tightened to properly fit.
    That's okay, Paige could also shift objects around while teleporting them. Like when she tied Piper up by teleporting rope at her.

    As for speed, she semi-frequently intercepted energy blasts in motion, so her teleporting can interact with people around her speed just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBookDragon View Post
    Two Leech is moving fast enough to move through solid objects, meaning that an orbed color would fall right were he was but not latch on to him.

    Thunder Force Speed Serum + The Hypertime Watch means that leech can move fast enough to move through solid objects
    By that argument he couldn't grab the time stone. The watch only made him phase through objects if he actively pushed against them, which he can't do with a collar.

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    If Leech steal the time stone then he will rewind everyone to their opening positions and they can all be time warped away.
    Leech wouldn't know how to do that though.

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    Sorry this is a bit rushed. Good Match
    No blame, I had trouble finding the time to make a post too. Good match.
    Last edited by Siriel; 09-29-2021 at 08:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    What is he stabbing her with? The Leviathans didn't have the stats to punch through her durability as far as I recall, and the watch intangibility wasn't of the selective kind that can phase partially through people.
    His hands. They went through angels and other things like that.

    I didn’t finish my reply in time so that is fine but I thought I would answer the question without argueing anything else.

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