The Inhumans are Rasict

[Brian B]

Now that's a true racist talking.
Calling a whole race of people racist is a racist thing itself.
You guys do realize people are not defined by their race right?
I'm not going to use real life example in case people get sensitive,
but a mutant can still be a racist and that doesn't make all mutants racist.

You don’t know me. I strongly suggest you not call me a racist over discussing FICTIONAL COMICBOOK CHARACTERS.

It is not racist to point out a society is racist, in real life or comics, as the Inhumans clearly are.

[Brian B]

Exhibit 1A of the Inhumans being racist jerks from the tyrant on down:

[kalai]

You don’t know me. I strongly suggest you not call me a racist over discussing FICTIONAL COMICBOOK CHARACTERS.

It is not racist to point out a society is racist, in real life or comics, as the Inhumans clearly are.

Triggered much? I'm not the one pointing my finger here.
You guys do realize the Inhumans are not defined by their race right?
Plus inhuman is actually a race, not a society,
there are bunch of different inhuman societies.
It's like saying Mutants are racist, or saying Asgardians are racist, it makes little sense.

[Force de Phenix]

Exhibit 1A of the Inhumans being racist jerks from the tyrant on down:

You're going in strong over fictional characters that are used as a tool for storytelling. You can't call them out to be real and claim they are fictional. You can't have it both ways.

We're not talking about real world slaves or races, so don't act like they are the equivalents of real world bigots when inhumans are of many ethnicities in the comics, making your argument moot.

[Force de Phenix]

Also, the panel above just shows what happened. Do you just prefer comics or books not to exist if they have monarchies and science fiction drones used as slaves for an imaginary society?

I don't get the point of this thread and trying to claim that these fictional characters that change depending on the writer, are somehow stand-ins for bigotry in the real world. There's better examples of racism in comics.

This is weak since they write the Boltagons as living in an archaic society that is in the process of developing when they make contact with modern humans again. They even abdicated and made a republic! Which is a noble/heroic act in itself. And you only bring up books from the 80's.

[Brian B]

Triggered much? I'm not the one pointing my finger here.
You guys do realize the Inhumans are not defined by their race right?
Plus inhuman is actually a race, not a society,
there are bunch of different inhuman societies.
It's like saying Mutants are racist, or saying Asgardians are racist, it makes little sense.

Triggered? You’re the triggered one. You can’t even admit your beloved Inhumans are a bunch of racist, autocrat, slavers.

[Brian B]

Also, the panel above just shows what happened. Do you just prefer comics or books not to exist if they have monarchies and science fiction drones used as slaves for an imaginary society?

I don't get the point of this thread and trying to claim that these fictional characters that change depending on the writer, are somehow stand-ins for bigotry in the real world. There's better examples of racism in comics.

This is weak since they write the Boltagons as living in an archaic society that is in the process of developing when they make contact with modern humans again. They even abdicated and made a republic! Which is a noble/heroic act in itself. And you only bring up books from the 80's.

Right, because societies from that were squarely racist 30 years ago in real time, and something less than that in Marvel comics time, are suddenly not going to have race issues anymore. That’s as ridiculous as claiming the Inhumans aren’t racist.

[Brian B]

You're going in strong over fictional characters that are used as a tool for storytelling. You can't call them out to be real and claim they are fictional. You can't have it both ways.

We're not talking about real world slaves or races, so don't act like they are the equivalents of real world bigots when inhumans are of many ethnicities in the comics, making your argument moot.

We’re discussing a fictional society of autocrats and slavers. And what story is being told there? It’s okay to have slaves when they’re dumb enough? What great storytelling point or moral is being made by this story? It’s okay to own slaves? Think about it.

[Noek]

Isn’t this what all slave-owning societies like to claim, that the slaves aren’t really, fully human?

BTW, I do blame Ike for a lot of the X-Men/Inhumans fiasco.

1) No Rome didn't do that, they viewed their slaves as not Roman.
2) Both the Inhumans and Alpha Primitives are literally not humans.

[Brian B]

1) No Rome didn't do that, they viewed their slaves as not Roman.
2) Both the Inhumans and Alpha Primitives are literally not humans.

You’re going to hold Rome’s treatment of its slaves as some sort of ideal state for humanity? Really?!

The Inhumans and Alpha Primitives are as human as anyone. Race is a social construct, not a biological fact.

[Noek]

Triggered? You’re the triggered one. You can’t even admit your beloved Inhumans are a bunch of racist, autocrat, slavers.

You are ignoring the main point, that the actions of some do not speak for all. What about the other Inhuman kingdoms? Even if we are just looking at Attlian, it wasn't an Autocracy. As the Genetics Council had most control, except for their Warriors and Diplomats. We also talked about earlier in this thread that they are villains, and blaming all of the Inhumans for their actions is like blaming all Mutants for the brotherhoods.

[skyvolt2000]

Even when Ike Perleman was around, he never did pull the trigger and did any wholesale canceling of the X titles. On the other hand, he felt he could get away with it for the Fantastic Four. He's wasn't that stupid as to lose the sales of the X-titles...or maybe some brave staffer pointed that out to him.

Or Marvel did to Ike what they did when Disney wanted Gwenpool gone (because they did not get her)-keep on using her.

Because if Ike was willing to toss away the Fantastic Four who boasts 4 movies, 2 tv shows and 600+ issues of a title.

Ike was MORE than willing to do that to the X-Men. I would wonder if using that cloud to kill off mutants was agreed upon by him to allow those books to keep going.

Now you would have to wonder Black Panther going 5 years bookless was an acted by him.

It just would not make sense to get rid of Fantastic Four-because they DO have fans and I have seen kids go after them more than other folks in bins and trades.

[Conn Seanery]

If this subject can't be discussed maturely, and without repeated accusations of racism or other personal comments, people are going to start getting bounced.

[Noek]

You’re going to hold Rome’s treatment of its slaves as some sort of ideal state for humanity? Really?!

The Inhumans and Alpha Primitives are as human as anyone. Race is a social construct, not a biological fact.

When did I put ideal, I just put Rome didn't see them a less human, just as loosers.

No it is 100% biological in this case, do you even read these comics?

[Brian B]

You are ignoring the main point, that the actions of some do not speak for all. What about the other Inhuman kingdoms? Even if we are just looking at Attlian, it wasn't an Autocracy. As the Genetics Council had most control, except for their Warriors and Diplomats. We also talked about earlier in this thread that they are villains, and blaming all of the Inhumans for their actions is like blaming all Mutants for the brotherhoods.

It wasn’t an autocracy because of the “Genetics Council?” Really?! Every tyrant has his or her own council to deal with, but if you want to simply call the Inhumans a state of tyranny instead of recognizing the political power concentrated in Black Bolt, that’s fine.