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    Default Has wolverine really become to powerful?

    Or did writers merely start to depict him as he was originally created( a character who could challenge the Hulk and not die instantly)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew101281 View Post
    Or did writers merely start to depict him as he was originally created( a character who could challenge the Hulk and not die instantly)?
    The X-Books forum would probably know this better. He's an Omega Level Mutant in his power set, right? Is he stronger than Colossus/Rogue? His mutant power included super strength? When was the last time he lost a fight because he reached his max threshold of strength?

    He would lose to the Hulk even if he would attempt to fight him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Force de Phenix View Post
    The X-Books forum would probably know this better. He's an Omega Level Mutant in his power set, right? Is he stronger than Colossus/Rogue? His mutant power included super strength? When was the last time he lost a fight because he reached his max threshold of strength?

    He would lose to the Hulk even if he would attempt to fight him now.
    He's not omega level, he's nowhere near rogue or colossus in strength.His strength is Cap America level,maybe slightly more.

    the reason he can fight such strong characters is his healing factor and admantium claws hax that can cut through almost anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    He's not omega level, he's nowhere near rogue or colossus in strength.His strength is Cap America level,maybe slightly more.

    the reason he can fight such strong characters is his healing factor and admantium claws hax that can cut through almost anything.
    Add in the adamantium laced bones and he can take a hit that someone like Cap couldn't. The bones won't break..but there will be trauma...and the HF will deal with that trauma.

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    Yeah, he's portrayed as being way more powerful than he should be. No super strength. Can't fly. Just an angry guy with some claws, adamantium bones, and a healing factor. This started when Jeff Loeb had him regrow himself from a single cell after Nitro blew him up. The most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. I'm Canadian, and love the character, but some of the stuff he does goes way beyond what he should be able to do. His brain would be mush after some of the hits he's taken. Healing factor or not, there's only so much he should be able to take.

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    I feel like his power creep was actually much earlier. The story that stands out is the Peter David Wolverine solo story where he jumps out of a plane and just takes machine gun fire from all the bad guys and keeps going. It used to be that, if he got shot, it would take him a couple hours to heal. Now it seems practically instantaneous. Healing from a single cell is a gimmick not likely to reoccur in many factual scenarios. But how he does in an every day fight can define his power class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stingray View Post
    Yeah, he's portrayed as being way more powerful than he should be. No super strength. Can't fly. Just an angry guy with some claws, adamantium bones, and a healing factor.
    Here is a list of Powers and Abilities.

    James Howlett (Earth-616)

    Powers
    Superhuman Strength: Wolverine's reinforced skeleton allows him to withstand high levels of physical pressure. His strength is also boosted to enhanced levels, allowing him to briefly lift over 800 lbs.


    Regenerative Healing Factor
    Contaminant Immunity
    Fatigue Resistance
    Decelerated Aging
    Telepathic Resistance
    Retractable Bone Claws
    Hot Claws
    Superhumanly Acute Senses
    Superhuman Hearing
    Superhuman Sight
    Superhuman Smell
    Superhuman Taste
    Superhuman Touch
    Superhuman Speed
    Superhuman Stamina
    Superhuman Durability
    Enhanced Reflexes and Agility
    Animal Empathy
    Former Powers
    Solipsistic Manipulation
    Omniscience
    Omnipotence

    Phoenix Force
    Precognition
    Cosmic Pyrokinesis
    World-Destruction Capability
    Cosmic Knowledge
    Self-Resurrection
    Temporal Immunity

    Chi Augmentation
    Chi Manipulation

    Symbiotes
    When bonded to a symbiote, Logan possessed the powers provided by them which included:
    Superhuman Strength
    Superhuman Durability
    Superhuman Stamina
    Superhuman Speed
    Superhuman Agility
    Superhuman Reflexes
    Regenerative Healing Factor
    Constituent-Matter Generation
    Shapeshifting
    But also their weaknesses such as a vulnerability to heat and sonic based attacks.


    Asgardian Claws

    Abilities
    Skilled Tracker
    Above Normal Intelligence
    Expert Leader
    Master Martial Artist
    Weapons Expert
    Computer and Vehicles Expert
    Expert Assassin
    Multilingual

    Paraphernalia
    Equipment
    Adamantium
    Adamantium Beta

    Wolverine's Suit

    Weapons
    Throughout his life, Wolverine has used a variety of bladed weapons, most frequently daggers and, at times, swords; as a samurai, he was especially skilled with the katana. He has also wielded many different types of firearms throughout his careers as a soldier, a mercenary, and a spy. While he was highly skilled with firearms and because of his perfect eyesight it is very difficult for him miss when firing a gun, he has stated on multiple occasions that he isn't fond of them and prefers to use bladed weapons, despite this, Wolverine used guns frequently after he lost his healing factor.

    New Muramasa: After seeking out the ancient swordsmith whom created his prior blade, Wolverine now wields an all new enchanted Katana to participate in the battle for Krakoa.


    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/James...t_(Earth-616)#
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    Quote Originally Posted by stingray View Post
    Yeah, he's portrayed as being way more powerful than he should be. No super strength. Can't fly. Just an angry guy with some claws, adamantium bones, and a healing factor. This started when Jeff Loeb had him regrow himself from a single cell after Nitro blew him up. The most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. I'm Canadian, and love the character, but some of the stuff he does goes way beyond what he should be able to do. His brain would be mush after some of the hits he's taken. Healing factor or not, there's only so much he should be able to take.
    The Hulk rattled his brain inside his skull multiple times during WW Hulk. In reality the Hulk would squash him like a bug if he didn’t stick and move which he usually does when he fights him. Ironically he never fights Thor. Probably because adamantium conducts electricity well and Thor could knock him out in just a few seconds. Wolverine is tough but he is nowhere near omega or in the league of the heavy hitters. Spider-Man would kick his ass and he’s not in their league. Peter is much stronger, faster and has more skill and agility. Plus he’s smarter. Like any character it depends on who is writing him. He’s a popular character so of course he’s going to be written to please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew101281 View Post
    Or did writers merely start to depict him as he was originally created( a character who could challenge the Hulk and not die instantly)?
    He's the Bat God of the X-men, isn't he? If so, you can expect that whatever his abilities are will be magnified to ridiculous levels. Truth be told, it happens to quite a few popular characters. Modern era comics are just broken that way.

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    If Wolverine is capable of survive this:



    yes, I would say he has become too powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor-Ul View Post
    If Wolverine is capable of survive this:



    yes, I would say he has become too powerful.
    It does present quite the paradox, eh? I mean if Wolverine can reconstitute himself from complete incineration, why bother spending bazillions to lace his bones with adamantium? Is a fractured femur his lone Kryptonite? (Of course, we know why. The writers never originally intended for Wolverine, or his healing factor, to be that powerful. But here we are.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor-Ul View Post
    If Wolverine is capable of survive this:



    yes, I would say he has become too powerful.
    Quoted for simple truth.

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    Wolverine was waaay more interesting when one could possibly kill him by cutting his throat. The thought was he would bleed out before his healing factor could save him. Once became Godverine, he became less interesting a character. Now he is so popular there are 7 versions of him running around but that's because Marvel is about branding more than just writing great stories and creating interesting new characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor-Ul View Post
    If Wolverine is capable of survive this:



    yes, I would say he has become too powerful.
    This became completely magical. I now the intention is making Wolverine basically a immortal or really hard to kill, but it became completely nosense when he can regenerate from only bones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor-Ul View Post
    If Wolverine is capable of survive this:



    yes, I would say he has become too powerful.
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